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Networking change causes distribution headaches

Networking change causes distribution headaches

Posted Oct 29, 2008 1:08 UTC (Wed) by jamesh (subscriber, #1159)
In reply to: Networking change causes distribution headaches by dlang
Parent article: Networking change causes distribution headaches

> for bonus points, what should the kernel do if another batch of
> broken routers is discovered that wants a different order?

Presumably, the current broken routers work with the packets generated by Windows. If a new router expected a different option order it wouldn't work with Windows, which is the kind of problem that would be noticed.


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Networking change causes distribution headaches

Posted Oct 29, 2008 1:29 UTC (Wed) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]

so we need to reverse engineer how windows does things and never do anything different, even if the RFC allows it?

with that mindset we can never be better than windows.

yes, it is the case with doggy hardware that sometimes we do end up saying that 'windows does it this way and it works, the hardware doesn't follow the specs so we just need to do it the same way'

but to take that attitude about something that's supposed to be as generic as your network packets can be crippling.

Networking change causes distribution headaches

Posted Oct 29, 2008 2:23 UTC (Wed) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link]

The sad fact is that "what does Windows do?" is a question that kernel developers often have to keep in mind. Whatever Windows does is what's actually tested; it's often the only thing that works. It's a pain.

Networking change causes distribution headaches

Posted Nov 1, 2008 4:32 UTC (Sat) by jbailey (subscriber, #16890) [Link]

It's not so much a matter or never so much as knowingly. Linux doing ECN
managed to make all sorts of devices on the Internet not cope with Linux,
so it had to be disabled in order to work. But it's still there and an
option. This thing isn't going to matter one way or the other, so it may
as well be done as Windows does it to avoid any hassle.

Tks,
Jeff Bailey

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