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Fedora and long term support

Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 20, 2008 19:02 UTC (Mon) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767)
In reply to: Fedora and long term support by rahulsundaram
Parent article: Fedora and long term support

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Filing a bug report is easier for you and certainly much easier than getting me to install another operating system to verify any bug.
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That's pretty typical of my interaction with Fedora officials: "You are the user. We expect you to do the work".

No wonder Fedora has lost so much ground with Linux users over the last few years. I won't mention which distro has picked up all the ground that Fedora has lost.


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Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 20, 2008 19:38 UTC (Mon) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

Steve, you are now bordering on trolling. You are talking about a CentOS bug and then referring to losing Fedora users. Get your story straight. No project can magically fix issues without it getting reported with the specific details.

If popularity is the only argument for all the tired conversations, Windows must be fixing all their bugs to be so popular! Yes, Fedora does rely on its users to share some of the burden and I believe so does all Linux distributions. In this case, it is simple: You as a user report the SELinux bug you claim to run across and developers will fix it pretty quickly usually completely for free. Seems a fair deal to me. I am not going to install CentOS 4.7 to verify the bug you claim to exist.

A) Because I am not a CentOS user. I run Fedora on pretty much all my systems 24/7 and my primary system at the moment runs rawhide in part because I want to help fix bugs before it hits most users. That will help you, the CentOS user as well in the long run but not immediately.

B) The particular issue with printers is unlikely to be something I can verify easily considering that I don't have access to a printer at the moment.

If that makes me a bad guy, so be it. Good luck.

Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 21, 2008 3:13 UTC (Tue) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

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Steve, you are now bordering on trolling.
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I don't think so. Microsoft certainly must be doing a few things right to retain their popularity with the general public. Though, as we both must know, they do a few things wrong, as well. Conversely, Fedora does a few things right, and a lot of things wrong, as well.

Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 21, 2008 6:42 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

I am sure Fedora does some things wrong just like any other project but not fixing unreported CentOS bugs isn't in that list. I am happy to tell you that.

Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 20, 2008 23:27 UTC (Mon) by mmcgrath (subscriber, #44906) [Link]

"No wonder Fedora has lost so much ground with Linux users over the last few years. I won't mention which distro has picked up all the ground that Fedora has lost."

That's so strange - all of our metrics, which are publicly available btw, show a continued growth in use of Fedora. As to which distro seems to have picked up all the ground we've "lost" which metrics / numbers are you referring to?

Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 21, 2008 3:01 UTC (Tue) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

As to which distro seems to have picked up all the ground we've "lost" which metrics / numbers are you referring to?

Do I even need to mention it? No doubt the absolute numbers show an increase. Go Linux! Go Home Computing, and Computing in general!

But Fedora's percentage of the market has fallen dramatically in the last few years.

Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 21, 2008 3:11 UTC (Tue) by mmcgrath (subscriber, #44906) [Link]

Sorry, that's an opinion. Not a fact. Show me metrics from any distro or show Fedora how it's own metrics show lost share. Any actual facts released by a distro will do, otherwise you're treating opinion as a fact.

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