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Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 18, 2008 0:09 UTC (Sat) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639)
In reply to: Fedora and long term support by sbergman27
Parent article: Fedora and long term support

Whether or not Canonical has been able to do it sustainably is still open for debate. I look forward to Shuttleworth being able to announce that Canonical is breaking in their service business around LTS.

In the meantime, for the next several years until that happens, I'm more than happy to talk to any group of people..volunteer or commercial entities which would like to help extend the Fedora project services in a sustainable way..by committing to contributing their time or resources to that effort.

-jef

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Fedora and long term support -- copy the Ubuntu solution

Posted Oct 18, 2008 3:37 UTC (Sat) by qg6te2 (guest, #52587) [Link]

Perhaps the solution is simply to take Ubuntu's idea of LTS and apply it to the Fedora/Red Hat divide -- e.g. Fedora 10 (or 11) would become RHEL 6. The official paid RHEL support would be for a selected set of packages. All other packages would be unofficially (or community) supported. The attitude of "Fedora is upstream for RHEL" should be removed -- anybody worth their salt reads this as "Fedora is a beta / proving ground for RHEL" anyway.

Sidenote: I recently had to install a Linux based OS on a new machine (projected lifetime: 5 years). As much as I like Fedora (used it since F1), it's simply too unstable and breaks too many things between releases. RHEL 5 / CentOS 5 are too ancient to consider seriously (the requirements for the machine were a recent gcc, python, etc). Ubuntu fits this niche perfectly, as the upgrade path is clear and a lot less error-prone. Having said that, Ubuntu's/Canonical's contribution to the community is a considerably less than Fedora/Red Hat. Rather disappointingly I had to put Ubuntu on the machine.

Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 18, 2008 21:28 UTC (Sat) by sbergman27 (subscriber, #10767) [Link]

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Whether or not Canonical has been able to do it sustainably is still open for debate. I look forward to Shuttleworth being able to announce that Canonical is breaking in their service business around LTS.
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I would like to point out that you are attempting to generate Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt surrounding Ubuntu. This is not the first time you have done that; It seems an ongoing campaign. That is, in my opinion, beneath the dignity of the Fedora and Red Hat communities, and I recommend that you cease, lest it be thought that the Fedora community condones such shady tactics.

Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 21, 2008 9:33 UTC (Tue) by ekj (subscriber, #1524) [Link]

Would you please stop doing that ?

You do this repeatedly and it amounts to nothing more than FUD.

Yes, it is true that Ubuntu, or more precisely Canonical, may fold at some unknown time in the future. This is true of all other distributions too. There is no evidence that Ubuntu is about to have the plug pulled on it, and it's not as if it's the first linux-company to run in the red for a while.

Please stick with actually relevant critiques and drop the insulting FUD. There's no guarantees Redhat will be around in 3 years either. That's just how the world works.

Fedora and long term support

Posted Oct 21, 2008 15:44 UTC (Tue) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

You guys need to stop. Don't feed the Spaleta troll. He makes up FUD because he can't stand Ubuntus success and it even turned into hatred towards Mark.
I am not joking. Just look at any story on LWN about Ubuntu and you will find long posts describing his twisted view of reality.

Just ignore him.