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Have you actually looked on what nVidia REALLY distributes?Have you actually looked on what nVidia REALLY distributes?Posted Oct 5, 2008 7:39 UTC (Sun) by khim (subscriber, #9252)In reply to: Plugging into GCC by chromatic Parent article: Plugging into GCC
This question is most interesting when considering NVIDIA's binary blob kernel module This is real-world proof of successfull circunvention: nVidia is clearly in the clear here. No one ever said otherwise. Why? Simple: they distribute this "binary blob" as two parts: big closed-source driver and "public domain" glue code. The driver itself is not in violation of copyrights: it's not a derived work since the same blob can be used, for example, in Windows driver. Nothing Linux-specific there. Glue code is probably a derivative work of the Linux kernel, but... it's distributed without ANY restrictions and so is GPL-compliant. The real toxic thing is actual loadable kernel module - but nVidia does not distribute that (Canonical does), so nVidia is in the clear... The tiny amount of doubt remains: are binary blob and glue code really separate works? Court will decide but since both were created by nVidia problems in the interface (which can lead to derivativennes) are easy to fix...
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Have you actually looked on what nVidia REALLY distributes? Posted Oct 5, 2008 12:34 UTC (Sun) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]
it's not a derived work since the same blob can be used, for example, in Windows driver. Nothing Linux-specific there. What's the evidence for this btw? I know it's the generally accepted view, but what evidence is there for it, besides NVidias' confidence in being able to distribute this driver and the circumstantial evidence of some "looks like Windows programming style" symbol names? Is there any real independent evidence for this belief, or is being taken on trust?
No evidence. And it's probably not even true :-) Posted Oct 5, 2008 12:44 UTC (Sun) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link] Actually I think this blob differs slightly from what they ship in Windows driver. And I'm pretty sure even nVidia does not have Windows driver which uses this blob - but apparently they believe they can create such driver if court demands this. Realistically I do not expect deception here: if you have driver for Windows it's much easier to introduce glue code which will take it more-or-less unmodified then it's to create Linux-native driver. Think NDISwrapper. Linux developers will NEVER accept such driver in mainline - but this is not an issue for nVidia... Thus I'm pretty sure nVidia's blob IS what they have used for Windows driver - plus few small modifications here and there. Probably not enough to qualify as derivative of Linux kernel. And since the only reliable way to know (via court) is quite expensive... nobody bothers to actually check. Basically it all boils down the following three-step thought process:
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