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KDE 4.1.2 Released
KDE Community Improves Desktop with KDE 4.1.2 Codenamed "Codename" KDE Community Ships Second Translation and Service Release of the 4.1 Free Desktop, Containing Numerous Bugfixes, Performance Improvements and Translation Updates October 1, 2008. The KDE Community today announced the immediate availability of "Codename", (a.k.a KDE 4.1.2), another bugfix and maintenance update for the latest generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop. Codename is a monthly update to KDE 4.1. It ships with a basic desktop and many other packages; like administration programs, network tools, educational applications, utilities, multimedia software, games, artwork, web development tools and more. KDE's award-winning tools and applications are available in more than 50 languages. Desktop Effects in the KDE 4.1 workspace KDE, including all its libraries and its applications, is available for free under Open Source licenses. KDE can be obtained in source and various binary formats from http://download.kde.org and can also be obtained on CD-ROM or with any of the major GNU/Linux and UNIX systems shipping today. Enhancements As a service release, the changelog contains a list of bugfixes and improvements. Note that the changelog is usually incomplete, for a complete list of changes that went into KDE 4.2, you can browse the Subversion log. The most significant changes are: * Deleting files got a nice 32 times speedup. * Many bugfixes and improvements in KHTML and its new JavaScript bytecode interpreter Frostbyte. "Stop animations" is back in Konqueror. * The Kopete Instant Messenger team fixed crashes in the ICQ, Yahoo and Gadu-Gadu protocols. * Comicbook backend fixes in the document viewer Okular * Fixes in Gwenview's thumbnailing, * Various crash fixes in KGpg, the PGP security utility. To find out more about the KDE 4.1.x desktop and applications, please refer to the KDE 4.1.0 and KDE 4.0.0 release notes. KDE 4.1.2 is a recommended update for everyone running KDE 4.1.1 or earlier. This release will be followed up by more x.y.z updates over the next months and ultimately by a new feature release, KDE 4.2.0 this coming January. Read more at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.1.2.php -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 _______________________________________________ kde-announce mailing list kde-announce@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-announce (Log in to post comments)
KDE 4.1.2 Released Posted Oct 3, 2008 19:46 UTC (Fri) by Thue (subscriber, #14277) [Link]
Following that choice of codename, I bet KDE 4.1.3 will be codenamed "Placeholder"...
KDE 4.1.2 Released Posted Oct 3, 2008 20:13 UTC (Fri) by pr1268 (subscriber, #24648) [Link] Deleting files got a nice 32 times speedup. I'd hate to experience the "before" version of that algorithm. Or see its code. Ugh!
KDE 4.1.2 Released Posted Oct 4, 2008 13:00 UTC (Sat) by sebas (subscriber, #51660) [Link]
Many people did. It was one of the 'most popular' bugs, and had been there since -- I think -- KDE 3.0.
KDE 4.1.2 Released Posted Oct 3, 2008 21:14 UTC (Fri) by dkite (guest, #4577) [Link]
The speedup came from eliminating redraws.
Derek
KDE 4.1.2 Released Posted Oct 4, 2008 8:17 UTC (Sat) by vblum (guest, #1151) [Link]
That is an outstanding idea.
I noticed the same in KMail long ago, it does a million redraws during startup and many other operations. Normally one does not notice this, but if you tried to open KMail via X on a "slow" connection (any standard DSL connection), you get to follow the process in slow-motion, in my case for approx. 10 minutes.
I did file a bug at the time (KDE 3.x) but don't think it ever got picked up .... have not tried KDE 4 yet, but I hope someone has done something about it.
KDE 4.1.2 Released Posted Oct 6, 2008 6:15 UTC (Mon) by Tuxie (guest, #47191) [Link]
Programming books used to tech things like this ("Always disable redrawing before filling a list box!") back in the days but that knowledge seems to have vanished with the new generations of coders which are used to CPUs faster than 7 Mhz. :)
"Premature optimization..." and all that but it's always good to develop good habits.
KDE 4.1.2 Released Posted Oct 6, 2008 8:46 UTC (Mon) by eru (subscriber, #2753) [Link] I'm not familiar with Qt programming, but I wonder if this might not be so much a case of developers having "too fast" computers, but of a deficiency in the abstraction that does not have any convenient knob for preventing screen updates while the underlying data structures are modified? The complexity of the modern interfaces may also make it more difficult. Back in the 7 Mhz days, that list box was about the most complicated ready-made widget you had in the toolbox...
KDE 4.1.2 Released Posted Oct 6, 2008 20:11 UTC (Mon) by alecs1 (guest, #46699) [Link]
While I found getting threads right a bit harder with Qt than with, say, Java, it is doable.
I find the existance of this sort of bugs dissapointing. But again, I have never contributed to KDE so I am not the right person to criticize.
KDE 4.1.2 Released Posted Oct 6, 2008 23:48 UTC (Mon) by aseigo (guest, #18394) [Link]
it had nothing to do with threads, really; kio is out of process, but even that's not really relevant
here.
the issue was when upates were being signaled when creating/updating the data model for a
with Qt4, we got an integrated model/view framework and David got around to finally taking full
so, yes .. it is easy to criticize when you look at it from the perspective of the "7Mhz days" (network
KDE 4.1.2 Released Posted Oct 5, 2008 6:59 UTC (Sun) by muwlgr (guest, #35359) [Link]
1. Is Konqueror going to have "the real" JavaScript engine, like, SquirrelFish/TraceMonkey/V8 ? FrostByte feels, you know, so "May 2008"ish :>
2. Is Kopete'4.1.2 able to work through HTTP proxies for, say, ICQ ? If not, Pidgin keeps to be my choice.
Konqueror Posted Oct 6, 2008 12:31 UTC (Mon) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018) [Link]
As long as Konqueror can't do Gmail, I'm stuck with Firefox. And if you have Firefox, why use Konqueror at all?
Konqueror Posted Oct 6, 2008 12:41 UTC (Mon) by niner (subscriber, #26151) [Link]
Why use konqueror? Maybe because it starts instantly, seems to eat less
RAM and most of all: is really nicely integrated into the desktop. For example I can use my filesystem bookmarks, and upload a file via some web interface, that I get from another machine via fish:// And the dialogs look like and behave like the dialogs in my other applications, and not completely different (and unusable like the file save dialog)
Konqueror Posted Oct 6, 2008 13:32 UTC (Mon) by ipes (guest, #43384) [Link]
Everything you mention is awesome, but nowadays quite simply not enough, by far. I honestly tried to stay with Konqueror for web browsing for years, but not anymore. I find it ridiculous that a supposedly oh-so-well integrated program has to take 2x or 3x or even 10x the time to display the same page and too often get it all wrong anyway. And after switching to Firefox (oops sorry Iceweasel) a while ago, now show me the greatest browser on Earth, fast, compatible, blah blah blah, but which doesn't support FF extensions, and guess what? it will get Rejected. Not good enough, thank you, period. Yes, it means I'm stuck with the Cancel button in front of the OK button and all the other maddeningly retarded UI stuff. But I just take it as life not being perfect. I still use Konqueror as a file manager, buggy but OK program. Yet to try Dolphin, but not too excited about that either.
Konqueror Posted Oct 6, 2008 14:04 UTC (Mon) by Janne (guest, #40891) [Link]
"Everything you mention is awesome, but nowadays quite simply not enough,
by far."
I think the people who use Konqueror would disagree with you...
"I honestly tried to stay with Konqueror for web browsing for years, but
So because you prefer some other browser instead of Konqueror, it means
"Guess what? it will get Rejected."
And still, Konqueror has it's ahare of users.
"Not good enough, thank you, period."
And still, there are quite a few people who prefer it over some other
Konqueror Posted Oct 6, 2008 13:58 UTC (Mon) by forthy (guest, #1525) [Link] What makes you think Konqueror can't Gmail? Gmail can't Konqueror, just fake the browser ID, and tell Google that your Konqueror is really Firefox. Maybe a few things render not perfectly, but mostly, it looks like it's working - the 3.5.9er version, not the 4.1.2er. It wouldn't cost much time to adapt Gmail perfectly to Konqueror, but apparently Google thinks it's not even worth that little effort. Maybe it's more effective to simply "fix" Konqueror instead, so that the browser ID spoofing really works. Note that browser-specific code really is the wrong kind of thinking, anyway. To be honest: I use Firefox for Gmail, as well. I also use Firefox for heise.de, because the stylish plugin allows me to remove all the crap the web designers put on that page. For the rest, I use Konqueror - the 3.5.9er version. As much as I think 4.1.2 is now coming close to be usable, I stick with 3.5.9, because there are still too many minor quirks in 4.1.2.
Konqueror Posted Oct 6, 2008 16:46 UTC (Mon) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link]
Considering Google is using Webkit for their own browser so they can (as I understand it) have more control for their webapps... I would think that Konqueror should work fine with gmail... if not now, in the near future.
Konqueror Posted Oct 6, 2008 17:02 UTC (Mon) by Camarade_Tux (guest, #51944) [Link]
It does not completely. You can fake ff2 but the chat will be buggy. You can fake safari2, there will be no chat and then only a minor size bug (it's only visual), you'll get everything else.
As for webkit, webkit can render gmail perfectly as shown by safari. HOWEVER, webkit-gtk has troubles with gmail, because of its curl backend which is not complete though.
But honestly, use gmail in the html-way UI. Firefox would use 20% of a T5450 core to display my inbox, without me doing *anything*.
Konqueror Posted Oct 6, 2008 23:50 UTC (Mon) by aseigo (guest, #18394) [Link]
well, let's not confuse "Konqueror" with "KHTML". Konqueror uses KHTML for web content, but it's not
hard coded to do so.
i expect over the next little while we'll see other options open up for Konqueror. i'm using one of them
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