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smoke screen?smoke screen?Posted Oct 1, 2008 19:21 UTC (Wed) by apokryphos (guest, #42130)In reply to: smoke screen? by s0f4r Parent article: Ubuntu debuts its Upstream Report
Actually, suggesting that they contribute considerably to GNOME in comparison to other companies instead of the Kernel is _actually_ a smoke screen. Companies like Novell and Red Hat employ significantly more developers to consistently work on GNOME and KDE, so if you did a graph with those contributions comparing the different downstream projects, I doubt there would be much difference at all. For example, SUSE have significantly more developers working on OpenOffice.org alone than entire desktop team at Canonical
Greg KH's speech was quite simply that Ubuntu are not the upstream innovators. Critics who complained that he didn't consider the GNOME projects still do not change this fact, and critics who suggest that Canonical is a smaller company are side-stepping the issue. Launchpad is part of the problem, but one of the main problems IMO is one of erroneous attribution. For example I have seen many Ubuntu users suggesting to others that they created Compiz -- a project that actually cost Novell thousands of dollars.
Companies like Red Hat and SUSE should be getting tremendous credit for consistently paying free software developers to work on the Linux server/desktop day-in-day-out, and this so frequently does not happen.
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smoke screen? Posted Oct 1, 2008 20:13 UTC (Wed) by bfields (subscriber, #19510) [Link] a project that actually cost Novell thousands of dollars. Might want to count those zero's again....
how many zeroes Posted Oct 1, 2008 21:12 UTC (Wed) by louie (subscriber, #3285) [Link]
RH and Novell (and to a lesser but still very significant extent) have invested many millions (probably in the low tens of millions at this point) in GNOME, gtk, X, freedesktop, etc.
how many zeroes Posted Oct 1, 2008 21:14 UTC (Wed) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
I wonder... how much has Canonical sunk into launchpad specifically over the years?
-jef
how many zeroes Posted Oct 2, 2008 19:49 UTC (Thu) by louie (subscriber, #3285) [Link]
Hrm, that 'and ____ to a lesser but still significant extent' should have a 'Sun' in the blank there.
smoke screen? Posted Oct 2, 2008 9:17 UTC (Thu) by kripkenstein (subscriber, #43281) [Link]
> For example I have seen many Ubuntu users suggesting to others that they created Compiz -- a project that actually cost Novell thousands of dollars.
What do a few misinformed users have to do with Canonical or Ubuntu? I've never seen either claim they created Compiz.
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