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Quotes of the week
The userspace API you propose should however be taken out and shot,
then buried with a stake through its heart, holy water in its mouth
and its head cut off, at midnight in a pentacle at a crossroads in
the presence of a priest.
-- Alan Cox, who seems strangely
appropriate for the priest role.
Btw, the _real_ bug is clearly in the hardware design that allows
you to brick those things without apparently even having a lock
bit.
-- Linus Torvalds
I'm hoping Intel doesn't treat this as just a software bug. Some hw designer should be thinking hard about which orifice they put their head up in.
What a low-rent cheeseball freshman maneuver. Too bad I don't
drink, or some kernel hackers would get an earful of fresh rumors
about the mental acuity of stap hackers at the bar tonight! Ok,
staprun, let me get a baby wipe there, I'm feeling parental.
-- Roland McGrath has fun with SystemTap
But I also have a UI that the kids can run to _see_ how much time
they have left, so that getting thrown off the machine doesn't come
as a total surprise. And yesterday Patricia asked why it has to be
that ugly. And I had to admit that her dad is just not very good at
UI's...
-- Linus Torvalds fails to impress his kids
(Thanks to Nicolas Pitre).(Log in to post comments)
Quotes of the week Posted Oct 2, 2008 0:42 UTC (Thu) by flewellyn (subscriber, #5047) [Link]
On the Alan Cox quote, I was amused by Eric Paris's response to that: "shooting for an lwn quote of the week?"
Quotes of the week Posted Oct 2, 2008 0:53 UTC (Thu) by flewellyn (subscriber, #5047) [Link]
Also...good lord, if that's the state of SystemTap's tools, why on Earth do they think it's even close to ready for primetime?
Quotes of the week Posted Oct 6, 2008 0:30 UTC (Mon) by njs (guest, #40338) [Link]
Because for software that's just coming into prominence, 90% of user pain is usually caused by hitting stupid little snags that are trivial to fix but the developers hadn't bumped into themselves. So you easily end up in a situation where users think the software sucks and the developers think that it's great, and both positions are perfectly reasonable -- the bugs are real and cause real pain, but the developers start out unaware of them, and then see they don't reflect the true state of the software anyway.
That seems to be the case here, anyway. The complaints boil down to "I tried running this software in a weird untested configuration, and it didn't work, plus the error messages didn't tell me why" -- hardly a shocker, or proof that systemtap is fundamentally flawed. Just stuff that the systemtap people have to fix now, and examples of the kind of stuff they have to become more aware of as they transition into a being a real-world tool.
Which of course was Roland's point :-).
Quotes of the week Posted Oct 2, 2008 20:50 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
I've seen irony before, but that post of Roland's was the first time I've
ever seen tyre irony.
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