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The Linux Plumbers Conference: a summaryThe Linux Plumbers Conference: a summaryPosted Sep 24, 2008 7:04 UTC (Wed) by david.kagedal (guest, #29249)Parent article: The Linux Plumbers Conference: a summary
"Overseas events" would, to me, mean that it's probably somewhere in the Americas.
You (and many others) seem to forget that not all your readers are so US-centric.
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The Linux Plumbers Conference: a summary Posted Sep 24, 2008 8:06 UTC (Wed) by mkerrisk (subscriber, #1978) [Link] "Overseas events" would, to me, mean that it's probably somewhere in the Americas. You (and many others) seem to forget that not all your readers are so US-centric.David, I think you need to read the article a little more closely. It starts off with a discussion that leads to the point that there has been a dearth of Linux technical conferences in the US. So, the US developers often have had to go "overseas". There is nothing US-centric in those observations: they're jut describing what has been the state of things in an important region of the Linux development community.
The Linux Plumbers Conference: a summary Posted Sep 24, 2008 10:09 UTC (Wed) by xav (guest, #18536) [Link]
Sorry, I agree with David. I had to re-read the sentence to understand what "overseas" meant in this context.
Overseas Posted Sep 24, 2008 13:50 UTC (Wed) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] Hmm. I was talking very specifically about US-based developers. I had thought that, in that context, "overseas" would be pretty clear.As far as we can tell, there are more LWN readers outside of the US than within. I spend a good part of every year going to those readers. We all work very hard to adopt a perspective beyond the US - something that, shall we say, people raised in this country are not normally encouraged to do. I am sorry if you didn't like my phrasing there. I can try to do better - I guess one must use absolute coordinates at all times, even when the origin has been made explicit - but it's hard to feel like this was all that big a mistake.
Overseas Posted Sep 24, 2008 18:56 UTC (Wed) by mkerrisk (subscriber, #1978) [Link] Hmm. I was talking very specifically about US-based developers. I had thought that, in that context, "overseas" would be pretty clear.To my mind it was crystal clear. I think you'd have to be actively looking for US-centrism to find it in your article. As far as we can tell, there are more LWN readers outside of the US than within. I spend a good part of every year going to those readers. We all work very hard to adopt a perspective beyond the US - something that, shall we say, people raised in this country are not normally encouraged to do. I am sorry if you didn't like my phrasing there. I can try to do better - I guess one must use absolute coordinates at all times, even when the origin has been made explicit - but it's hard to feel like this was all that big a mistake.Hard to see how it was any mistake at all, actually. Keep up the great work Jon.
Overseas Posted Sep 24, 2008 20:07 UTC (Wed) by dark (subscriber, #8483) [Link] Hmm. I did find it confusing, but not US-centric. I was confused because you went from "a feeling among certain developers that becoming the next Dmitry Sklyarov would not be a fun way to spend the rest of the year" to "There is a certain appeal to overseas events". So I thought you were comparing the appeal of overseas events with the risk of traveling to the US -- in order words, looking at it from the point of view of developers like Alan Cox. It took me a few tries to then make sense of the rest of the second paragraph.
Overseas Posted Sep 25, 2008 13:19 UTC (Thu) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]
For what it's worth, this was exactly what I was going to say if I could have been bothered :-).
Not exactly a great deal though - nobody's writing is expected to be perfectly clear to everyone all the time.
The Linux Plumbers Conference: a summary Posted Sep 24, 2008 14:01 UTC (Wed) by clugstj (subscriber, #4020) [Link]
The first paragraph mentions the United States at least 3 times. Our editor lives in the United States. Unless you skipped the first paragraph, I don't see how one could be confused.
I feel that out editor has an excellent command of the English language.
The Linux Plumbers Conference: a summary Posted Sep 24, 2008 18:57 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
Ah, good, the last line of your comment has sacrificed to the Irony
Fairy ;)
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