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Posted Sep 18, 2008 3:36 UTC (Thu) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Posted Sep 18, 2008 6:34 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
frankly, those projects are not where most of the work that Ubuntu has done shows up. they have been doing far more with tweaking configs and scripts to make a linux system do things that it could have done before, but nobody bothered to make it do.
Posted Sep 18, 2008 6:56 UTC (Thu) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Looking at the biggest projects is only natural. If a distribution did "tweak" things to do stuff better and did not send it upstream, I would consider it as a net negative really and not a benefit to the community on the whole. If any considerable work has been done, it should show up *somewhere*. Lets see those stats.
Posted Sep 18, 2008 7:17 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
as for their other administrative and config scripts, where do you suggest that they submit them? there is no 'upstream' (other then possibly debian) for them to deal with. they do like every other distro does and provide the source of the scripts with the distro.
If one of the other posters is correct and that for their kernel they are almost completely upstream + backported fixes from upstream, then the main thing that they are doing is tuning the kernel and selecting config options, who do you suggest that they submit these configs to?
where they do have real development work going on I expect them to push things back upstream, if only in self defense (reducing their workload), but it takes people experienced in distro maintenance to really believe that. (just like it takes a experienced developer to really believe in code re-use, and some people never do learn and insist on always re-inventing the wheel)
Posted Sep 18, 2008 7:48 UTC (Thu) by filipjoelsson (subscriber, #2622)
Are the pesky Ubuntu developers twiddling their thumbs all day, or actually doing work? If they are doing work, it'd be a whole lot nicer of them to contribute. And since they are a Debian derivative, there is an upstream for exactly everything they do (including little scripts and exotic configs) - except inserting trademarked logotypes.
Then again, they may be very few, and already contributing exactly everything they do - but if that was the case; why the difference between Debian and Ubuntu?
Posted Sep 18, 2008 8:22 UTC (Thu) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454)
Of course they do. If you had followed any major software projects you'd have seen default config fixes from Red Hat, Mandriva, Novell, etc
> so why should you expect Ubunto to do so?
That's Ubuntu's opinion and why it's getting a black eye now.
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