Same problem, different perceptions
Posted Sep 11, 2008 17:36 UTC (Thu) by quaid
In reply to: More Equal...
Parent article: Fedora distributes new keys
Jake, thanks for attending the meeting and engaging in a lively discussion. I appreciate that you are trying to separate your feelings/fears/concerns as a Fedora user from your role as a reporter.
In the open public question/discussion channel, I think you showed (and identified) your personal bias that the existence of Red Hat in Fedora's affairs makes Fedora less of a community distro. Myself, other Board members, and other community members provided several examples and reasons of how the situation with Fedora and with previous distro security problems are not equivalent.
There has never been an equivalent situation to what happened to Fedora, and it has nothing to do specifically with Red Hat. Red Hat just happens to be the incorporated-in-the-US entity involved that changed the tenor of the situation. That could happen to any distro, and it does not diminish their being a "truly community distro." I think Seth's example was a great one:
skvidal lwnjake: here's an example
skvidal lwnjake: a debian server gets crack[ed]
skvidal lwnjake: the cracker hosts A LOT of kiddie porn
skvidal and terrorist documentation
skvidal the hosting provider gets a national security letter
skvidal debian is down and out
skvidal and not allowed
skvidal AT ALL
skvidal to speak about it
skvidal would that be a failing of debian?
lwnjake we can discuss scenarios all day, it doesn't change the fact that you folks can't even confirm whether you know how the intrusion occurred
skvidal or would it be the fact that law is different
You and others keep asking questions that people are repeatedly saying they are not able to answer. Ironically, the answer is probably staring you in the face, but if you believe "... it comes from red hat legal or at least that is the perception", you continue to look for answers that implicate an Evil Overlord.
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