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Microsoft's Man in Open Source: Sam Ramji on Redmond's Linux Strategy (Datamation)

A fairly short interview with Microsoft's Sam Ramji over at Datamation has one of the better non-answers seen lately: "Q: At a recent Microsoft Worldwide Partner conference, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer seemed to be saying that Microsoft will work with open source, but will never actually produce open source software. Is that a correct reading of the company's attitude? I’m glad you asked this, because it’s incredibly important that we accurately articulate Microsoft’s open source strategy. Microsoft believes that the next ten years of software will be a time of growth and change where both open source and Microsoft communities will grow together. We believe that in an increasingly interconnected world, more people have more opportunity; to use more technology; to do more things than ever before. We support those choices and are expanding interoperability between open source technologies and Microsoft technologies."
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Microsoft's Man in Open Source: Sam Ramji on Redmond's Linux Strategy (Datamation)

Posted Sep 1, 2008 19:29 UTC (Mon) by raf (guest, #35151) [Link]

maybe he would be "glad" for the question to be repeated...

Microsoft's Man in Open Source: Sam Ramji on Redmond's Linux Strategy (Datamation)

Posted Sep 1, 2008 20:15 UTC (Mon) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

Sounds like doubtalk, full of the standard buzzwords but content-free.

The only possible way that microsoft could "expand interoperability" is to adhere to standards, and I don't see them doing that yet.

Microsoft's Man in Open Source: Sam Ramji on Redmond's Linux Strategy (Datamation)

Posted Sep 1, 2008 20:21 UTC (Mon) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

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Microsoft believes that the next ten years of software will be a time of growth and change where both open source and Microsoft communities will grow together.
"""

Reminds me of something old Landru used to say: "You are not of The Body. You will be absorbed or destroyed."

To bad we can't just destroy MS with logic. ;-)

Microsoft's Man in Open Source: Sam Ramji on Redmond's Linux Strategy (Datamation)

Posted Sep 1, 2008 20:57 UTC (Mon) by Cardinal_Bill (guest, #23688) [Link]

Damn! MS has managed to hack into my machine and steal the random .signature file that was created recently!

bill@jumbo:~> cat .signature
Proof techniques #1: Proof by Induction.

This technique is used on equations with "n" in them. Induction
techniques are very popular, even the military used them.

SAMPLE: Proof of induction without proof of induction.

We know it's true for n equal to 1. Now assume that it's true
for every natural number less than n. N is arbitrary, so we can take n
as large as we want. If n is sufficiently large, the case of n+1 is
trivially equivalent, so the only important n are n less than n. We
can take n = n (from above), so it's true for n+1 because it's just
about n.
QED. (QED translates from the Latin as "So what?")

Actually, he said yes

Posted Sep 1, 2008 22:44 UTC (Mon) by kbengston (subscriber, #6153) [Link]

The last sentence of the quote imagines Microsoft technologies and open source technologies as separate but interoperating. I'd say Microsoft intends to make a profit by putting its resources into Microsoft technologies, for which it can charge a fee. Any open source it produces will be incidental to its main aim because of that business model.

So is it true that Microsoft will never actually produce open source software? When you think about the answer, Mr Ramji is saying "Yes".

Microsoft's Man in Open Source: Sam Ramji on Redmond's Linux Strategy (Datamation)

Posted Sep 1, 2008 23:49 UTC (Mon) by sanxiyn (guest, #44599) [Link]

Microsoft already produces open source softwares like IronPython and IronRuby, so I am not sure what this is about.

Microsoft's Man in Open Source: Sam Ramji on Redmond's Linux Strategy (Datamation)

Posted Sep 2, 2008 2:20 UTC (Tue) by pr1268 (subscriber, #24648) [Link]

It would seem that Microsoft has gotten so big now that even their senior management is a hodgepodge of divergent and often contradictory philosophies, and they're afraid of stepping on each other's toes. Best explains why Ramji earns his doublespeak award when answering a question about Open Source.

I can see it now: one wrong word from Ramji and Ballmer will start throwing chairs at him, also!

Microsoft's Man in Open Source: Sam Ramji on Redmond's Linux Strategy (Datamation)

Posted Sep 4, 2008 17:39 UTC (Thu) by uhmgawa (guest, #23210) [Link]

Huh? It sure looks like English and even
sounds like English but appears carefully
crafted to be 100% content-free.

Then again trying to extract intelligence
from a m$ PR brain fart is particularly
challenging with any shred of logic and
truth buried so deeply in the noise floor.

Rule of thumb here is to trust m$ about
as far as one can toss an elephant, and
most likely considerably less.

Dain bramage?

Posted Sep 4, 2008 20:07 UTC (Thu) by jzbiciak (✭ supporter ✭, #5246) [Link]

Reminds me of these gems from the Hidden Brain Damage Scale: "I feel as much like I did yesterday as I do today. People tell me one thing one day and out the other."

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