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VIA releases open source Xorg driver: Forking the english language documentation

VIA releases open source Xorg driver: Forking the english language documentation

Posted Sep 1, 2008 4:29 UTC (Mon) by bdagit (guest, #53691)
Parent article: VIA releases open source Xorg driver

the existence of comments in the source code in languages besides english begs the question, if source code and foreign languages are free speech, why is there no open language movement or why is language proprietary?
the openness to grant someone the right to communicate in a foreign language in your midst, which is a given, is exploited if the speaker only does that to insure exclusivity and privacy, and makes no effort to share the 'source code' of their language. free learning materials for that language, and some kind of free clearinghouse for practice partners are appropriate. i honestly doubt that 2 countries are friends or even on speaking terms if there is no agreement to mutually establish the exchange of free language-learning materials.
when you choose your desktop locale, you should be offered free language-training materials with the localization. that is free speech and respect for other languages.
let me note that programs like kvoctrain and kwordquiz are capable of helping to build foreign language vocabulary skills. however, i have not found a useful trove of vocabulary files except for a few languages.
in addition, i would like to see tons more useful parallel texts online.


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VIA releases open source Xorg driver: Forking the english language documentation

Posted Sep 1, 2008 5:25 UTC (Mon) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link]

Languages, in practice, may be exclusive. No natural languages are proprietary. I'm not sure what you're driving at.

VIA releases open source Xorg driver: Forking the english language documentation

Posted Sep 1, 2008 6:16 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Some groups speaking obscure languages have tried to claim proprietary
rights over their languages, generally so they can forbid outsiders from
speaking it or try to control what's said in it.

None of these claims have been tested in court, all have been met with
hilarity from everyone I know of who's heard of them, and the general
opinion of such attempts is that they're doomed to failure. (It'd have no
chance of success with major languages, of course. The closest they get is
the Academie Francaise...)

VIA releases open source Xorg driver: Forking the english language documentation

Posted Sep 3, 2008 22:09 UTC (Wed) by bdagit (guest, #53691) [Link]

it's just diversity, which will invigorate the community and spread freedom. in case you didn't know, alot of people who shun linux in favor of proprietary software might do so because they don't trust the idea of programmers talking over their heads. programming languages are foreign to them as much as spoken foreign languages.
foreign languages exist because of geography and politics and taste. the geography and politics are why they are exclusive. i was only saying that foreign languages that cost more than just the minimum to learn with self-study are analogous to expensive proprietary software versus the cost of burning a cdrom with free software. once usable learning materials are available freely and openly, nobody will have to pay anything more than the time and work to learn the language.
the freedom in linux and the notion of source code as protected free speech is where this analogy springs from. as of now, if there are no gpl'd foreign language instructional materials which at least cover up to the foreign language comments in the code, such comments are effectively like free proprietary binary snippets tainting the gpl.

VIA releases open source Xorg driver: Forking the english language documentation

Posted Sep 1, 2008 16:00 UTC (Mon) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]

Try Klingon.

There's plenty of freely available learning material out there.

VIA releases open source Xorg driver: Forking the english language documentation

Posted Sep 5, 2008 12:15 UTC (Fri) by Oddscurity (guest, #46851) [Link]

"[PATCH] adds mod_tlhIngan: yIDoghQo'"

Indeed... hilarity ensues?

VIA releases open source Xorg driver: Forking the english language documentation

Posted Sep 11, 2008 4:31 UTC (Thu) by bdagit (guest, #53691) [Link]

i think most countries (governed in language X) of sufficently ample means offer some kind of free night school courses to learn X as a second language. they would improve this service by offering the learning materials online. if you lived just across the border, you would be welcome to attend these courses, but why not, then, offer at least some online materials for neighbors too distant to commute to the free class. there is no decent reason to avoid this conclusion, open source should be extended to language learning materials.

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