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Re: Ubuntu developers are also contributing to the HURDRe: Ubuntu developers are also contributing to the HURDPosted Aug 19, 2008 20:10 UTC (Tue) by mbanck (subscriber, #9035)Parent article: In defense of Ubuntu I am not sure why they put the Hurd there. Jeff Bailey used to work at Canonical, and he was somewhat involved with GNU Hurd upstream (never directly as a developer though I believe, he might have contributed a couple of patches) and more so in Debian GNU/Hurd. He ran the Debian GNU/Hurd autobuilder for some time and was also the main hurd package maintainer back then. However, he has since left Canonical, and by the time he joined, he had mostly stopped working on Debian GNU/Hurd already. Colin Watson is the only other person I could think of, he is still a Canonical employee and contributed to Debian GNU/Hurd, especially starting a debian-installer port some years ago which nobody picked up yet. I am not aware of any major contributions by him, though. That said, RedHat employs Roland McGrath who wrote large parts of the GNU Hurd and GNU libc. Michael PS: It's Hurd, not HURD.
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Re: Ubuntu developers are also contributing to the HURD Posted Aug 19, 2008 20:16 UTC (Tue) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link] > PS: It's Hurd, not HURD. At least it's not Turd. The FSF's ability to pick bad names is unmatched. They should change while they can, before many people are even aware of the project.
Re: Ubuntu developers are also contributing to the HURD Posted Aug 19, 2008 23:39 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] Hey, RMS picked 'POSIX', which isn't a bad name (certainly not compared to the awful alternatives that were bandied about at the time: anyone else remember 'IEEIX' or whatever it was? Sounded like someone screaming in pain...)
Re: Ubuntu developers are also contributing to the HURD Posted Aug 20, 2008 0:56 UTC (Wed) by felixfix (subscriber, #242) [Link] The FSF's ability to pick bad names is unmatched. Au contraire. It is a perfect name for GNU.
Re: Ubuntu developers are also contributing to the HURD Posted Aug 19, 2008 20:34 UTC (Tue) by pr1268 (subscriber, #24648) [Link] PS: It's Hurd, not HURD. I was taught that acronyms are capitalized. Accordingly, HURD would be appropriate for Herd of Unix-Replacing Daemons (at least that's what I read HURD stood for some time ago). But if we're in the habit of renaming all-caps acronym project names, then be sure to change GNU to Gnu. ;-)
Re: Ubuntu developers are also contributing to the HURD Posted Aug 19, 2008 21:54 UTC (Tue) by hildeb (subscriber, #6532) [Link] `Hurd' stands for `Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons'. And, then, `Hird' stands for `Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth'. We have here, to my knowledge, the first software to be named by a pair of mutually recursive acronyms.
Re: Ubuntu developers are also contributing to the HURD Posted Aug 20, 2008 15:36 UTC (Wed) by ikm (subscriber, #493) [Link] No wonder it's still not ready...
Re: Hurd typography Posted Aug 23, 2008 18:35 UTC (Sat) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link] Then I guess Hurd isn't an acronym; it's just a proper noun that was invented in an acronymal way.I don't think acronyms stand for anything, by the way. An abbreviation stands for something, but an acronym is a word in its own right. Unlike with an abbreviation, if you were to "spell out" an acronym, you would change the sentence and probably require the user to translate back to the acronym to figure out what you're referring to. I say "is derived from" instead of "stands for" for an acronym.
Re: Ubuntu developers are also contributing to the Hurd Posted Aug 22, 2008 5:56 UTC (Fri) by jbailey (subscriber, #16890) [Link] Hi Michael! =) Part of joining Canonical was largely handing off my Hurd responsibilities, as well as a lot of my porting ones. My previous employer had been forgiving about me having 13 architectures (including very noisy and power hungry Alphas and Itaniums) under my desk. My home-office manager, that is to say: my wife, was much less so. =) I think that given patches, the Toronto Hurd Users Group, Talks, on-line tutorials, and such that I did with the Hurd, it's fair to say that I worked on it even after I joined Canonical. It's somewhat ironic - some of why I got the job at Canonical was because of my glibc co-maintainership, which I only took on because of the Hurd. =) Tks, Jeff Bailey
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