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IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek)IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek)Posted Aug 8, 2008 4:03 UTC (Fri) by csawtell (guest, #986)Parent article: IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek)
If Mr. Sutor wants a better pictorial user interface than any that's currently available, I wonder if he might care to start a community oriented WinterThink, followed by a sponsored CodingSummer. For me, I'd suggest that he contemplate some of the ideas in the Sugar interface designed for and by the OLPC folks. IMHO it really is the work of a team of geniuses. Some of the implementation features are not really solid yet, but the thoughts and ideas behind them are really brilliant. The denigrators of Sugar seem to have been corrupted into thinking that 'Start at the bottom left button' is the one and only way. They are sorely mistaken.
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IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek) Posted Aug 8, 2008 5:26 UTC (Fri) by janpla (guest, #11093) [Link] I don't know the Sugar interface - but I'd suggest looking at the old OS/2 Warp 3 for some fairly radical ideas. It took me some getting used to, but I really liked it, once I got the idea.
IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek) Posted Aug 8, 2008 6:55 UTC (Fri) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link] I have had a look at it at http://www.guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/os2warp3 and I have to say that I'm completely unimpressed. What's great with it? It just looks like a beta of Windows 3.0.
IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek) Posted Aug 8, 2008 13:14 UTC (Fri) by markhb (guest, #1003) [Link] It may look that way (and actually, Warp 4 had a better-looking screen), but it certainly didn't work that way. The whole thing was (is, if you want to look at eComStation) object-oriented, to the extent that, if you wanted to create a document on the desktop, you created one from a template (i.e., instantiated an object). WP's article on the Workplace Shell is here; read about the System Object Model as well. Plus, one neat UI trick that IBM patented and has never let go of: you could hold down your mouse button and drag in an irregular path through a folder window and only those icons you touched would be selected (as opposed to the rectangular-frame lasso that the others have).
IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek) Posted Aug 9, 2008 1:25 UTC (Sat) by brouhaha (subscriber, #1698) [Link] if you wanted to create a document on the desktop, you created one from a template (i.e., instantiated an object)Another example of how everyone is actually following Apple's lead. That's exactly how the Lisa desktop worked. Xerox invented the GUI desktop, but almost all the innovation in it since 1983 has come from Apple, not Microsoft or IBM.
IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek) Posted Aug 8, 2008 14:05 UTC (Fri) by dkite (guest, #4577) [Link] Windows 95 copied many ideas from OS/2. (yes, that is the vintage). The shell had an object model whose biggest problem wasn't the idea, but the implementation. The development process was quasi impossible and the interfaces were undocumented. The object model was separated from the underlying file system, which created problems with synchronisation. There were some very neat ideas I've yet to see implemented elsewhere. But the object model idea has been copied almost everywhere. Derek
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