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IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek)IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek)Posted Aug 8, 2008 3:46 UTC (Fri) by jdave23 (guest, #27160)Parent article: IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek)
The article left me confused, as though written by someone who didn't quite understand what they were hearing. Stop copying Windows? Outside of the standard WIMP concept the various desktop environments are all over the map! I've enjoyed reading Bob Sutor's blog and he seems like a decent guy, but should anyone from IBM talk about interface design? I have to look at a Notes client five days a week and it doesn't exactly thrill me.
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IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek) Posted Aug 8, 2008 16:38 UTC (Fri) by N0NB (guest, #3407) [Link] Absolutely. Before someone from IBM begins to lecture us on usability, I want proof that he has personally taken the Notes UI designers out back and had them shot. I've had to use that poor excuse for an email program for over 13 years at work. I've rambled on about it in the past, but it really seems to be a "for PHBs by PHBs" type of program. More recent versions are a case study in bloat for bloat's sake. Like "quality" (anyone who has read Zen, and Art of Motorcycle Maintenance will understand), "usability" is a nebulous concept. What I find easy to use may be an enigma to someone else and vice versa. What annoys and bothers me is when people start bleating that the Free Desktop must sacrifice its range of choice in the name of "usability". A very poorly thought out strategy, IMO. A toolbox with only one tool in it isn't terribly useful for a variety of situations.
IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek) Posted Aug 9, 2008 5:07 UTC (Sat) by Sutoka (guest, #43890) [Link] > What I find easy to use may be an enigma to someone else and vice versa. Exactly! OS X is frequently touted as being awesomely usable, but I find it incredibly frustrating for the very same reasons. There isn't a single magic interface that everyone will find usable for what they're trying to do.
IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek) Posted Aug 10, 2008 14:03 UTC (Sun) by lysse (guest, #3190) [Link] Yes, because of course everyone at IBM has responsibility for the Notes UI, and IBM has never produced any other UIs, at all, ever, in the 50 or so years it's been writing software...
IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek) Posted Aug 11, 2008 5:54 UTC (Mon) by jzbiciak (✭ supporter ✭, #5246) [Link] Nor have they ever acquired software from the outside and carried it forward. (Pssst... Lotus Notes once came from a company named Lotus.)
IBM To Linux Desktop Developers: 'Stop Copying Windows' (InformationWeek) Posted Aug 9, 2008 15:54 UTC (Sat) by muwlgr (guest, #35359) [Link] Just remember, Notes were from Lotus, and Lotus were quite a pioneers in their era, e.g. with their Lotus123 software. Mitch Kapor is from Lotus, he develops "Chandler" PIM now. Until, of course, IBM bought them, after which the UIs had been kept frozen in 80s style and this seems not going to change :>
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