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IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat have jointly announced a scheme aimed at making progress in "the one billion-unit desktop market." "The four leaders are working with their local business partners in markets around the world to build and distribute a pre-loaded PC offering that features IBM's Open Collaboration Client Solution (OCCS) including Lotus Notes, Lotus Symphony and Lotus Sametime; the Linux operating system of each distributor; and software applications and installation services from the local partners in each market. The final product will be branded by the local IT firms that bring it to market."

IBM has launched a number of other initiatives as well, celebrating its ten years of support for Linux.


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IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Aug 6, 2008 3:20 UTC (Wed) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link]

Seems like this is really a move for IBM to try to get something for their Lotus suite, but I don't know of anyone who's using that stuff anymore.

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Aug 6, 2008 9:46 UTC (Wed) by ibukanov (subscriber, #3942) [Link]

> I don't know of anyone who's using that stuff anymore. 

In Norway companies connected with oil industry do use Lotus Notes. On the other hand I do not
aware of its usage in pure IT shops. I guess the reason why MS was not particularly successful
with forcing Exchange on oil-related companies is their extreme conservatism. It was IBM's
software that was used from the beginning of the oil saga in Norway in 1970-ties. 

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Aug 6, 2008 10:58 UTC (Wed) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018) [Link]

Philips use Lotus Notes, Amadeus (worldwide #1 in airplane ticket reservation) too...
Look at job offers and you'll see it's quite widely used despite its horrendous (only MY
opinion on v6) user interface...

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Aug 6, 2008 11:23 UTC (Wed) by muwlgr (guest, #35359) [Link]

Yes, after some years since IBM had bought it, pretty much any software gradually turns into
"punishware". Lotus, then. Rational, more recently. It's a system :>

punishware

Posted Aug 6, 2008 12:04 UTC (Wed) by clugstj (subscriber, #4020) [Link]

"Punishware", I never heard that term before - I like it!

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Aug 6, 2008 13:28 UTC (Wed) by TxtEdMacs (guest, #5983) [Link]

Seriously, could ClearCase be made worse even by IBM?  If so, that is a feat that should be
recorded for prosperity.  Preferably cooled to absolute zero and shot into the void where any
civilization finding it and being foolish enough to investigate is doomed to extinction. 

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Aug 6, 2008 22:01 UTC (Wed) by deunan_knute (subscriber, #290) [Link]

> If so, that is a feat that should be recorded for prosperity.

posterity?

Although, maybe one would demand prosperity for such recording :)

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Aug 6, 2008 22:26 UTC (Wed) by TxtEdMacs (guest, #5983) [Link]

> posterity?

Why the question mark?  You know you are correct.  Well, as the second worse speller of
American [U.S.] English, even a spell check cannot adequately protect me.  Nonetheless, I
stand by my assessment of ClearCase's suck-a-tude.  That is, despite my memories of marveling
at the inventiveness of IBM's tools that were beyond brain dead, I cannot believe even IBM in
its erstwhile form could match ClearCase's ability to heap despair upon its users.  [So I am
using poetic overstatement, pertaining to both parties to highlight a deeper truth.]

ClearCase got worse?  Impossible!

Mondegreens

Posted Aug 7, 2008 10:46 UTC (Thu) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link]

Did you just misspell, or is this another mondegreen here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondegreen

Of course I've had my own... ZZTop's "Slip Inside my Sleeping Bag" I was 
just /sure/ was "Synthesizer Sleeping Bag"!

Lyrics (thanks, google): 
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/z/zz+top/sleeping+bag_20149020...

Duncan

Mondegreens

Posted Aug 7, 2008 21:33 UTC (Thu) by TxtEdMacs (guest, #5983) [Link]

RE: ... is this another [case of] mondegreen here?

In the spirit of truthiness*, no I cannot hide behind that limp defense.  Moreover, had it
been a factor I should have risen to at least the hundred poorest spellers of the American
English language.  Instead I find myself holding the penultimate rung of being the worst.

* Where facts do not interfere with a good story.  [A more liberal interpretation of the J.
Corbet's IP patent and trade marking rights.  I will, however, resist all attempts to make me
pay for its use.  Recognition should suffice.]

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Aug 6, 2008 14:45 UTC (Wed) by wilreichert (subscriber, #17680) [Link]

People only use Notes because their company has been lodged on a Domino infrastructure for
years.  I don't think any sane IT department would try to introduce it to a company.

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Aug 7, 2008 21:53 UTC (Thu) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018) [Link]

...unless the only alternative they see is to get MS Exchange and friends and be even
more tied to MS?

Just my ยข2.

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Aug 6, 2008 13:48 UTC (Wed) by oblio (guest, #33465) [Link]

As far as I know, at least a major Dutch bank and one of the Big Four auditing companies use
it. Quite a few other global corporations, also.

Notes is the only real competition to Exchange in large enterprises.

IBM, Canonical, Novell, and Red Hat go for the desktop

Posted Sep 18, 2008 13:35 UTC (Thu) by dag- (subscriber, #30207) [Link]

I guess I must be the only one here that learned to appreciate Lotus Notes :-)

My experience with large companies is that the companies exploiting all features of Lotus Notes and Lotus Domino have better processes in place than the companies using Microsoft Outlook, Exchange and Sharepoint.

The amount of Excel sheets being emailed around or maintained on an MS Sharepoint (with all induced problems) and the lack of real process management learned me to appreciate Lotus Notes/Domino where it was used properly.

The only thing that urgently needs a fix in Lotus Notes is the tendency to send out-of-office notes to mailinglists. They should have fixed that one decades ago.

Today I am forced/paid to work with MS Outlook/MS Sharepoint and I regularly get irritated of things that do not work as I expect. Low quality search result in not finding emails. Out-of-office that needs to be enabled when you leave and return (instead of scheduled in advance). Poor filtering capabilities.

I guess you only miss something when you have seen worse...

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