Self-serving rhetoric: hyping a fallacious "benefit" [LWN.net]

Self-serving rhetoric: hyping a fallacious "benefit"

Posted Jul 31, 2008 6:23 UTC (Thu) by AnswerGuy (guest, #1256)
In reply to: Red Hat's new CEO aims Linux at the cloud (News.com) by salimma
Parent article: Red Hat's new CEO aims Linux at the cloud (News.com)



 Red Hat has been trying ot push this myth with corporate suits for awhile and I think it's a
bad idea for them in the long run.

 The best backpedaling they can make is to "clarify" their claim by arguing that they have key
kernel developers on their payroll who will marshall the changes through the necessary
refinement to get them to the level of technical quality that's required by the other kernel
maintainers ... and ultimately by Linus himself.

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Self-serving rhetoric: hyping a fallacious "benefit"

Posted Jul 31, 2008 13:44 UTC (Thu) by sbergman27 (subscriber, #10767) [Link]

More concisely: They are willing and able to do the actual work to get worthy features into
the kernel.

Self-serving rhetoric: hyping a fallacious "benefit"

Posted Jul 31, 2008 16:54 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Hehe. 

Isn't this how it used to go? :

FOSSFAN: Open Source is good because you can fix the stuff yourself and improve it yourself.

BUSINESSPERSON: I can't program, I won't program, sooo.. that means pretty much ziltch to me.
I need to get work done. 

FOSSFAN: Errr. well. Yes. But you could always pay somebody else to do it.

BUSINESSPERSON: Well I pay for software already. But say I want to pay somebody to do it for
me, who would I pay?

FOSSFAN: Errr... 

REDHAT: Pay me!

FOSSFAN: Sellout!!

I kid!

:)

Myth?

Posted Jul 31, 2008 22:54 UTC (Thu) by dmarti (subscriber, #11625) [Link]

Is it a myth, though? What has Red Hat tried to get upstream but failed on?

Myth?

Posted Aug 1, 2008 14:08 UTC (Fri) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link]

Hmm...what has Red Hat failed to get upstream? ExecShield bounced off Linus pretty hard. Utrace is still out in the cold. TUX maybe shouldn't count since I don't think they ever really tried. Much of the realtime stuff remains outside. That's just from a moment of pre-coffee thought.