Sun's Web Stack [LWN.net]

Sun has announced the availability of the Sun Web Stack, its own version of Apache, MySQL, and PHP. "Sun offers a new recipe for success - the Solaris OS + AMP (Solaris 10 OS, Apache, MySQL, and PHP). For customers committed to the open AMP stack, this 'recipe' provides the same Web applications they know and use, but on a more secure open-source platform with greater scalability."

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Posted Jul 23, 2008 22:24 UTC (Wed) by dulles (guest, #45450) [Link]

Looks like Sun is at it again (along with Oracle and Microsoft), trying to manipulate FOSS
people into downloading their controlled versions of Linux. The old men who run these
corporations are the same ones who created DRM, the RIAA, etc. If you've forgotten, Larry
Ellison offered free Oracle databases to any agency willing to implement DNA databases on
American citizens. Instead of SAMP, let's just call it what it is -- MAMP (Microsoft Apache
MySQL Perl). There's no real difference.

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Posted Jul 23, 2008 23:34 UTC (Wed) by cjs (subscriber, #45842) [Link]

Ah Dulles, but there is no Sun controlled version of Linux.

Sun is just offering natively compiled AMP stack for Solaris.

What does this have to do with Larry Ellison, Oracle and DNA 
databases? 

And how does Solaris = Microsoft? 

Sorry shouldn't feed the trolls.

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Posted Jul 24, 2008 1:32 UTC (Thu) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link]

I do find the claims of "more secure" somewhat distasteful faffery of the marketroid variety.
But that's my only complaint.

I'm curious whath they've "optimized", but some poking around on the page without finding any
solid indications of what (if any) work was done on the software has exhausted my time-budget
on the topic.

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Posted Jul 24, 2008 6:55 UTC (Thu) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]

> I'm curious whath they've "optimized"

They've put a JVM in it that optimises the use of memory. That is, every single byte available
gets taken by it ;-)

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Posted Jul 24, 2008 3:29 UTC (Thu) by flewellyn (subscriber, #5047) [Link]

It's not exactly a new recipe.  "AMP" is so well known as (presumably) respected because it's
tried and true.  Putting it on Solaris instead of Linux as an advantage?  Well, I'm not
qualified to comment, since I have never administered a Solaris machine, but I would wager
that while useful, it's hardly groundbreaking.

So they're announcing that they're...doing something that everybody else is doing.  And it's
new and different, because they're doing it now.  Way to go, Sun!

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Posted Jul 24, 2008 4:05 UTC (Thu) by TRS-80 (subscriber, #1804) [Link]

s/doing/renaming and supporting/ ~= And it's new and different, because they're doing it now.

They've been working on the CoolStack, which is what Sun Web Stack used to be known as, for more than a year. There are some security benefits to going with Solaris over Linux, like granting Apache permission to bind to port 80 so you don't have to start it as root, but they're not huge.

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Posted Jul 24, 2008 5:31 UTC (Thu) by SEJeff (subscriber, #51588) [Link]

Not really dude... You can do that on a modern Linux kernel. They added the
per-file-capabilities patch from Serge Hallyn of IBM in a very recent kernel. If you think I'm
making this up:
http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2....

All you have to do is use the userspace tools and give apache CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE. There is
an example on the page to download the userspace tools here:
http://www.olafdietsche.de/linux/capability/

Solaris had this feature first, but Linux also has it now.