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Don't get your hopes up ...Don't get your hopes up ...Posted Jul 23, 2008 16:28 UTC (Wed) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330)Parent article: The Death of Google's Patents (Patently-O) ... as this guy has his own axe to grind. If the USPTO were really about to throw out all software patents, I fear that Congress would intervene to reinstate them in any case, as there would be many wealthy contributors urging them to do just that, and plenty of pundits who would loudly scream that we face economic disaster otherwise. I'm afraid the best we can hope for in the US in the short term is for a tightening of the rules, with many patents tossed on the grounds of obviousness. As for PageRank, it's only a small part of Google's search algorithm, and most of it is protected by trade secret, not patents.
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Don't get your hopes up ... Posted Jul 23, 2008 20:45 UTC (Wed) by samroberts (subscriber, #46749) [Link] The idea that if anybody could take the ideas in PageRank and attempt to start their own search engine business that that would have any impact at all on google's business is ludicrous. The value is in their implementation, and that isn't reproducible, not without access to the source.
Don't get your hopes up ... Posted Jul 24, 2008 0:09 UTC (Thu) by rahvin (subscriber, #16953) [Link] Not just implementation but Maintenance as well, as they constantly revise the system to negate the effect of people trying to "beat" the system. The single most important thing about Google's search is they don't let advertisers game the system. Everyone using Google knows what's paid for and what's not. The same isn't true of Yahoo or MS search, and just like we saw in the days before Google, the other companies don't have the will power to avoid the $$$ offered by those trying to game the system. Until Google came along search on the internet was garbage, you typically didn't look at any of the search results on engines like Altavista until the 3rd page because everything before that was a paid ad made to look like search results. Even today if you look close at the other engines you will see that there are paid ad's hidden in the search results whether it's intentional by the engine or just gaming by outsiders.
Don't get your hopes up ... Posted Jul 24, 2008 2:51 UTC (Thu) by quotemstr (subscriber, #45331) [Link] I thought the vast majority of garbage sites in search results were there because they were able to game the system, not because they were paying search engines *per se*. I know that if doing that were possible, even for Yahoo and MSN, management at my job would have jumped at the chance. I suspect Google's spidering and filtering is still ahead of the pack, though by not nearly as much anymore. Not that people realize it: it seems like every two months or so, we still have someone proffering to "drive millions of visitors to our site" by "optimizing our industry-standard META tags, which will search engines what your site is about."
Don't get your hopes up ... Posted Jul 25, 2008 17:58 UTC (Fri) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link] it seems like every two months or so, we still have someone proffering to "drive millions of visitors to our site" by "optimizing our industry-standard META tags, which will search engines what your site is about." They aren't necessarily offering to produce garbage results pointing to your site, though, are they? It could be as legitimate as they say it: getting your site to show up in searches done by people who are looking for sites like yours. For example, maybe your pages don't contain the keywords that your prospective customers think of when they think about what you're selling.
Don't get your hopes up ... Posted Jul 24, 2008 0:11 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] Plus you'd need a huge server farm to get anywhere close to Google's amazing response times.
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