Re: From 2.4 to 2.6 to 2.7?
[Posted July 21, 2008 by corbet]
| From: |
| Andi Kleen <andi-AT-firstfloor.org> |
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| Alan Cox <alan-AT-lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> |
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| Re: From 2.4 to 2.6 to 2.7? |
| Date: |
| Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:02:22 +0200 |
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| <87iqv3sgyp.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> |
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| Parag Warudkar <parag.warudkar-AT-gmail.com>,
linux-kernel-AT-vger.kernel.org |
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Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:27:56 +0000 (UTC)
> Parag Warudkar <parag.warudkar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Andi Kleen <andi <at> firstfloor.org> writes:
>>
>>
>> > Or you could just do it like emacs or Solaris and simply use a single number.
>>
>> No - because then those handful of Solaris supporters will get one more 'proof'
>> in support of their claims of Linux copying Solaris - first SystemTap copying
>> DTrace and now version numbers. See how we stand a risk of ending up convinced
>> we do not innovate?
>
> "Support" - dtrace is based on the IBM work it seems, and the IBM work
> predates Solaris dtrace by a long time, so actually you could argue
> Solaris copied Linux but shipped first ;)
Actually SLES9 shipped with IBM dprobes[1] long before Solaris dtrace even
existed (and OS/2 did long before that). Back then the interest in it
was about zero though, which made SLES10 drop it again.
I think I was one of the very few users. Admittedly the early RPN
probes were also not particularly user friendly, but they worked.
I use this always as an example that even sophisticated users
like system administrators and kernel hackers are somewhat marketing driven.
-Andi
[1] which BTW already supported user space probes
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