the thing is, right from the start you did not have a civilized discussion, i believe you see
that yourselves now in hindsight. the lesson for you is that next time before you question the
messengers, you should look at the message and do some background research yourselves before
you engage them. in other words, ad hominem attacks are not conductive to your civilized
discussion no matter how much you talk about adulthood and respect to your fellows later.