Ubuntu, security response, and community contributions

> I'd also like to spur them to become better contributors.  No, they aren't going to be able
to compete with Red Hat, but they could compete with Mandriva.

At least they could try to beat Debian ;) Currently we have the situation that the heavily
overworked Debian kernel maintainers contributed more (7) patches than the canonical|ubuntu
employees (5) (git-log v2.6.25...v2.6.26). And I didn't even start counting Debian maintainers
who contribute to kernel outside the Debian context...

Certainly I hope too that ubuntu will spur up and start cleaning up and contributing atleast
some of the out-of-tree drivers they currently bundle..
I'm sure there are low hanging fruits there :)