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Reiser leads police to wife's body (MercuryNews)

Reiser leads police to wife's body (MercuryNews)

Posted Jul 14, 2008 7:48 UTC (Mon) by vblum (subscriber, #1151)
In reply to: Reiser leads police to wife's body (MercuryNews) by dvdeug
Parent article: Reiser leads police to wife's body (MercuryNews)

Sorry to not respond right away, but I think there is simply a misunderstanding here.
"Innocent until proven guilty", as worded here, is the standard under any western jurisdiction
anyway.

My impression was that attempts to circumvent this usually focus on what constitutes "guilty";
like here. Was the evidence enough to "prove" or no?

Btw, I am _not_ stating all this to defend Hans Reiser. Even I believed (before the verdict)
that it was likely him, although I hoped not. But, I also tentatively _believed_ in the Iraqi
WMD at the time. What I did _not_ believe in at the time (honest) was that some aerial
photographs of trucks could constitute any convincing _proof_ of WMDs. 

In the Iraqi case, the logic (convict first, prove later) was a deeply embarrassing failure.
(Btw you can be of any opinion you wish whether that war was needed or not for other reasons;
all I'm saying is, to my surprise, what seemed like a safe but unproven guess did not work.)
In the Reiser case, it worked.
 


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Reiser leads police to wife's body (MercuryNews)

Posted Jul 14, 2008 8:21 UTC (Mon) by dvdeug (subscriber, #10998) [Link]

You're misusing the verbal formula; "innocent until proven guilty" means that it's the state's
responsibility to prove the guilt instead of the defendant's responsibility to show their
innocence. When discussing the standard to which that guilt must be shown, it's "proven guilty
beyond a reasonable doubt".

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