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RefundsRefundsPosted Jul 12, 2008 20:10 UTC (Sat) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330)In reply to: Refunds by ledow Parent article: Sun invalidates the Firestar patent Probably there will be no refund; it would depend on the terms of the deal.
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Refunds Posted Jul 13, 2008 4:17 UTC (Sun) by rahvin (subscriber, #16953) [Link] And most importantly there was never a statement that money changed hands at all. I always took the settlement to be the company backing down completely based on evidence Redhat showed them. In fact I saw the taking of the patent license to every patent in their portfolio to be a statement that Redhat had some nasty evidence that resulted in the payoff to Redhat of a full patent license for all of open source for every patent in their portfolio to prevent Redhat from taking that evidence to the patent office. All sun has now done is take the same evidence to the patent office and invalidate the patent while open source is still protected from all the other patents. If anything it tells patent trolls that they better watch out when trying to assert patent's against the community.
Refunds Posted Jul 14, 2008 15:12 UTC (Mon) by flewellyn (subscriber, #5047) [Link] Now that does make a lot of sense. I couldn't see Red Hat paying Danegeld for a patent they could prove was bogus; it just didn't seem in character for Red Hat, not to mention being extremely poor strategy. After all, once you pay Danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane. On the other hand, bargaining for patent protection from the troll company in exchange for not invalidating the patent they were using to threaten Red Hat? That I can see quite easily. Very clever, too.
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