LWN.net Logo

Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS released

Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS released

Posted Jul 5, 2008 2:17 UTC (Sat) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861)
In reply to: Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS released by callegar
Parent article: Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS released

I upgraded my father's laptop from Dapper to Hardy last week.  After upgrading, just a few
seconds after he logged in the laptop would simply turn itself off.  If you turned it back on
it would come right back up (didn't even need to fsck the disks, but it did really boot; it
wasn't coming back from hibernation or anything).

I just booted the Dapper kernel and that still worked fine with the Hardy userspace.  Then I
installed the Feisty and Gutsy kernels as well, and discovered that while Feisty worked, Gutsy
also caused the system to turn off.

I set the grub menu to always boot the Gutsy kernel and he was happy.  That's a lot easier,
IMO, than building your own kernel.  Of course you don't have the newest kernel, but the older
one worked fine for all those months so...

Just an alternative idea.


(Log in to post comments)

Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS released

Posted Jul 5, 2008 9:18 UTC (Sat) by Cato (subscriber, #7643) [Link]

This doesn't always work though...  I've had a different freeze bug ("IRQ nn, nobody cared" -
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2....) on Feisty, Gutsy
and Hardy kernels - the only cure is to run with "irqpoll". 

Many non-techies would not be able to diagnose what was happening here, so I think this sort
of kernel bug will slow Linux and Ubuntu adoption on the desktop.  Maybe the Ubuntu kernel
team is under resourced, but I get the feeling that stability bugs aren't always the high
priority they should be.


resource

Posted Jul 10, 2008 13:38 UTC (Thu) by alex (subscriber, #1355) [Link]

<em>"Maybe the Ubuntu kernel team is under resourced"</em>

Certainly compared to a company like RedHat which has a fair number of high profile kernel
hackers. I'm not sure how big the core distro team is but I get the sense a lot gets done on a
shoestring, building as they are able to do on the groundwork done by Debian. I think RedHat
also test their stuff on a wider range of hardware.

Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS released

Posted Jul 5, 2008 9:19 UTC (Sat) by Cato (subscriber, #7643) [Link]

This doesn't always work though...  I've had a different freeze bug ("IRQ nn, nobody cared" -
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2....) on Feisty, Gutsy
and Hardy kernels - the only cure is to run with "irqpoll". 

Many non-techies would not be able to diagnose what was happening here, so I think this sort
of kernel bug will slow Linux and Ubuntu adoption on the desktop.  Maybe the Ubuntu kernel
team is under resourced, but I get the feeling that stability bugs aren't always the high
priority they should be.


Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS released

Posted Jul 6, 2008 22:05 UTC (Sun) by gavinmc (guest, #46316) [Link]

that sounds rather like this issue:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/75704

Is it an L400?  Did you try disabling ACPI?

Gavin

Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS released

Posted Jul 7, 2008 13:06 UTC (Mon) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link]

No, it's a Toshiba and it doesn't go into suspend: it actually turns off completely.  See:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/242400

Also, it actually works with 6.06, 6.10, and 7.04.  It fails with 7.10 and 8.04.

I didn't try disabling ACPI, which is a good idea in any case, but it'll have to wait for a
month until my father comes back into town since I don't have access to the system.  My dad's
a long-time computer user/etc. but... I don't feel comfortable trying something like this
long-distance.

Copyright © 2012, Eklektix, Inc.
Comments and public postings are copyrighted by their creators.
Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds