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Not so fast

Not so fast

Posted Jun 19, 2008 14:06 UTC (Thu) by PaXTeam (subscriber, #24616)
In reply to: Not so fast by man_ls
Parent article: Stable kernel 2.6.25.7 released

> OK, I see your point now: publicize all vulnerabilities as much as
> possible.

well, that's not so much *my* point, it's what full disclosure means and it's what kernel devs
have committed to. i never said whether i liked/disliked this form of disclosure myself, i
just said that if someone publicly declared to follow such a policy, he'd better do that else
people will be misled and may make bad judgements affecting innocent users.

> kernel devs are not security experts (most of them are probably not in
> the security list), and you cannot expect that they go out of their way
> doing security impact analysis. Also, you probably don't want them to

actually, i did say the very same thing myself, e.g., here: http://lwn.net/Articles/286439/
(there was a reason i asked you to read all the previous posts before making your own).

> You have shown us several examples of sloppy security assessments; they
> are probably just not very good at it. 

no, the examples we wanted to draw attention to were cases where the kernel devs *knowingly*
omitted the security impact information (such as the ptrace self-attach fix). figuring out the
security impact of bugs is a whole different problem and noone expects regular kernel devs to
solve that. but when they see or are told what a given bug does, they'd better not sweep it
under the carpet yet that's exactly what happened.


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