it wasn't a start but the continuation of http://lwn.net/Articles/285438/ . second, it's not a
discussion apparently, but just talking to ourselves and maybe telling the world to look at
certain problems, the discussion itself is apparently to be had on lkml with the kernel devs,
not us. finally, maybe you wanted to say 'flame' instead of 'trolling'? there's a big
difference and lkml is full of the former yet life continues, problems get solved. why can't
this one be?