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Posted May 29, 2008 20:15 UTC (Thu) by rfunk (subscriber, #4054)
In reply to: The Grumpy Editor reviews Claws Mail by cventers
Parent article: The Grumpy Editor reviews Claws Mail

Yes, I've noticed similar behavior, except that the list-cache issue is more likely to give 
me empty messages than wrong messages.

Strangely, it's a much bigger problem on one of my machines than on the other, despite 
them running the same version of Kubuntu (though different kernels).  I eventually got 
tired of nuking the IMAP cache on the one machine, and now use KMail only on the other 
one.  :-/

Konqueror's crashes seem to be most often due to memory overload or (more rarely) 
javascript oddities.  It doesn't leak memory as badly as Firefox does, but it does leak 
memory worse than I'd like.


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Posted Jun 7, 2008 13:38 UTC (Sat) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link]

> Konqueror's crashes seem to be most often
> due to memory overload or (more rarely)
> javascript oddities.  It doesn't leak
> memory as badly as Firefox does, but it
> does leak memory worse than I'd like.

Hmm, maybe that's why I don't tend to see such crashes.  I keep scripting 
off by default and finally have plenty of memory (8 gigs, 64-bit 
environment).

The problem then is that konqueror severely lacks sufficient scripting 
control, similar to noscript on iceweasel.  I can turn scripting on for a 
particular site and often, scripted features I want still won't work, 
because the script is loaded off a different site.  With iceweasel, it's 
simply a matter of checking noscript to see what additional sites the page 
is trying to load scripts from and enabling the ones one wishes (view the 
scripts first using the jsview extention if desired) either temporarily or 
permanently.  With konqueror, I'd have to either view source and check 
manually for scripts loaded from other sites, then load konqueror's 
scripting config and manually type in and enable all the desired sites 
individually (and permanently until deleted, no temporarily enable option 
available), or give up and enable scripting globally, including for sites 
like google analytics (urchin tracker) that I'd normally ban.

That's the big reason I still keep iceweasel around.  If konqueror were to 
get decent with its scripting control, using extensions or built-in, I'd 
likely be able to give up iceweasel entirely.  It's possible there'd still 
be some compatibility issues, but where I've dared to, many of those 
magically disappear if I enable scripting globally in konqueror.

Duncan

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