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Fedora 9 released
| From: | Jesse Keating <jkeating-AT-redhat.com> | |
| To: | fedora-announce-list-AT-redhat.com, fedora-devel-announce-AT-redhat.com | |
| Subject: | The Prophecy of the 9 comes true (Fedora 9 walks the earth!) | |
| Date: | Tue, 13 May 2008 10:01:24 -0400 | |
| Message-ID: | <1210687284.3170.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> |
An ancient text prophesised this day would come, detailing the fate of all who are willing to accept what is offered to them: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/index.html And that day has come: the Computer said "I will convert these unbelievers, and now that I have Sulphur it will be easy." At that, the heavens opened and burning Sulphur descended upon all the world, taking on many different forms. First to hit were the live USB keys. The heathens cried out for mercy, but were powerless to resist. The sticks were damn persistent and non-destructively formatted - non-destructively! They showed up everywhere, casting out demons from computers infected by the dark one of the interwebs and rescuing lost data from the influence of the evil crackers. Then, when they thought it couldn't get any worse, the whole world was cast into shadow. Lit only by the dim light from their computer screens, they discovered a mysterious message scrolling across: "K K K K K K K K 4 4 4 4 4 4". The screens flickered, and the light flooded out so that the shadow was lifted. After their eyes had adjusted they saw something so beautiful, teeming with so much potential that they began to break down. KDE 4 was on their desktops! The descent gathered pace; next to hit the ground was FreeIPA. At first this puzzled what remained of the heathens, but then they realized...they realized that it was going to make system administrators lives a lot easier! A web interface and command line tools, interacting with Windows domains and Active Directories? It was all getting too much for them. Conversions were happening faster and faster, only aided by mobile broadband, static IP addresses, and much much more in NetworkManager. Now, only a few doubters remained and what pushed them over the edge? The community, stupid! Tirelessly working to push out great code, great documentation and great artwork, inviting everyone to join where ever they were in the name of freedom. http://join.fedoraproject.org And the Computer, seeing that his work was accomplished and it was good, decided to rest. Pointing his browser at the Fedora mirrors, he switched off his monitor and waited for his Sulphur to return to him through the internet tubes, ready to enjoy another great release from the Fedora Project. http://get.fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/ReleaseSummary (this message brought to you by the Fedora Documentation Team http://docs.fedoraproject.org/) -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedomē is a feature! -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
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Preupgrade
Posted May 13, 2008 17:12 UTC (Tue) by chema (subscriber, #32636) [Link]
Just If someone is interested. You can find preupgrade rpm's here, just in case you'll like to try this kind of live upgrade (from F7,F8 -> F9). I'm just upgrading my laptop with it. -- Chema
Preupgrade
Posted May 13, 2008 19:52 UTC (Tue) by jkowing (subscriber, #5172) [Link]
Thanks for the tip! I've been hoping Fedora would someday have this option available. It may seem a small thing, but it makes upgrading to a new release seem so much nicer and easier. I just did an over-the-net distribution upgrade on Ubuntu that worked pretty well. Great job Fedora folks!
Preupgrade
Posted May 14, 2008 6:08 UTC (Wed) by DG (subscriber, #16978) [Link]
This page might be a better link - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=48938
Upgrade is broken again :-(
Posted May 14, 2008 16:36 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]
GUI upgrade for i386 shows a Python backtrace as soon as I select upgrade. Details belong to bugzilla, of course, but we need to think why such major bugs happen over and over again. Perhaps Python is not really suitable for that kind of task? And of course even very basic testing would have discovered the problem. While many people, myself included, track rawhide on some systems, the installer appears to get very little attention.
Blaming Python?
Posted May 18, 2008 9:39 UTC (Sun) by AnswerGuy (subscriber, #1256) [Link]
Perhaps blaming the language for the programmer's mistake makes no sense. You say it's a backtrace. In Python that happens when someone didn't anticipate some exception or chose not to catch it. If you're going to suggest that the choice of programming language is somehow wrong then you'll have to explain just exactly what this backtrace is and why a competent programmer would have been unable to avoid it. (For example if the backtrace pointed to a bug in one of the Python standard libraries, or if some bug in the runtime/interpreter triggered it, or triggered some exceptional condition such as OOM, that, in turn, cause this. Are you seriously suggesting that higher quality of code would have been likely if they had chosen C, C++, Perl? (Personally I have found that the code in Anaconda is just about the worst quality Python programming I've never seen. Their kickstart parser is fragile and completely inadequate even for the limited exposure to sysadmins. But I don't blame that on their choice of language. Also the whole process is so tightly coupled together that it seems impossible for them to support something as simple as: %pre does all my partitioning, filesystem formatting, and mounting --- everything is on /mnt/sysimage and I've generated my own fstab; skip to the package installation!) (If they had than then there'd be no need for an rpmstrap command --- you'd just run anaconda with the correct "--skip" argument and your virtual iSCSI installation would be all done where you're Xen, KVM, VMWare or whatever could go pick it up and use it). Bah. -- JimD
Fedora 9 released
Posted May 14, 2008 18:41 UTC (Wed) by dougg (subscriber, #1894) [Link]
In trying to upgrade a dual boot machine (w2000/Fedora8) with the i386 DVD it failed with "duplicate labels". Strange, upgrades from FC5->FC6->FC7->F8 worked fine on the same machine in the past. And Fedora on that machine is "clean" in the sense only "yum update"s have been done. I'm not the only one having problems: http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=E800C1E1-17A4-0F78-316FA... and I also got the "Try 2" error. F9 is starting to look three quarter baked.
Fedora 9 released
Posted May 14, 2008 20:21 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]
At night, the slow keys come.
Fedora slow keys and stuttering response
Posted May 15, 2008 14:50 UTC (Thu) by pr1268 (subscriber, #24648) [Link]
Just curious, do recent versions of Fedora still have that dreaded "stuttering" response? I'm referring to latency issues with mouse pointer movement, keystroke response, and page scrolling most visible when running Firefox, noticeable back in the FC2/FC3 days. A Fedora user at my local LUG said it was due to a near-constant stream of memory page faults.
I've never noticed such latency issues in any distro other than Red Hat and Fedora...
Fedora slow keys and stuttering response
Posted May 15, 2008 15:00 UTC (Thu) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]
Firefox can be unresponsive sometimes, but other applications running at the same time don't seem to be affected.
Fedora slow keys and stuttering response
Posted May 22, 2008 11:02 UTC (Thu) by HugoA (guest, #52201) [Link]
Also, you can try to disable smooth scrolling in firefox (in options under advanced -> general). Ironically, disabling it makes scrolling a lot smoother for me. FC2/3 was a long time ago, and I've never seen this stuttering (been with fedora since FC6).