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Slackware 12.1 released

The announcement for Slackware 12.1 has gone out. "This first Slackware edition of the year combines Slackware's legendary simplicity (and close tracking of original sources), stability, and security with some of the latest advances in Linux technology. Expect no less than the best Slackware yet." There's a lot of new stuff in this release; see the announcement for an overview.
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Slackware 12.1 released

Posted May 3, 2008 14:46 UTC (Sat) by polar (subscriber, #51861) [Link]

Brilliant!

more specific?

Posted May 3, 2008 15:24 UTC (Sat) by jabby (subscriber, #2648) [Link]

Can you be more specific?  What exactly do you find brilliant in this release?  What makes it
a worthwhile upgrade for you, or what do you think are the particularly strong reasons for
someone to try Slackware for the first time with this release?  What in this release has you
the most excited?

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Posted May 3, 2008 16:09 UTC (Sat) by richo123 (guest, #24309) [Link]

Why bother? It is Slack after all!

more specific?

Posted May 4, 2008 19:46 UTC (Sun) by georgejh (guest, #12406) [Link]

Asking the 'what do you think are the particularly strong reasons for someone to try Slackware
for the first time' points you're the not very 'inside' the things :) Slack is not for people
who try Linux for first time at all. It is distro for people who wants to understand what
actually their OS and surrounding software (including beautiful graphic interface) is actually
doing and how its doing it. It is not a distro for mouse loving people (even you can work with
it without any touch of shell as Ubuntu for example). After all when you have a not working
piece of software and hardware you go into shell to solve it. The problem when you use Ubuntu
is that you get knowledge how to fix ubuntu probs, if you use red hat, you now how to fix red
hat probs, etc. When you know how to fix probs under Slack you know to fix the same prob on
all other distros. Understand know?

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Posted May 4, 2008 20:25 UTC (Sun) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]

I disagree.  It makes a lot of sense to start off with Slackware; it gives you an idea of the
basics of a Unix-ish system and how to fix things.  Then once you have a little bit of
experience and want to spend your life on more interesting things than system administration,
you can switch to a more automated distro like Fedora, SuSE or Ubuntu.

Of course, I say this as one of the many people who first got started with Slackware...

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Posted May 4, 2008 20:26 UTC (Sun) by Janne (guest, #40891) [Link]

Um, he's not talking about trying out Linux for the first time, he's talking about trying out 
_slackware_ for the first time. There's a difference between those two. And his question was 
more along the lines of "what makes this particilar sackware-release good?". It wasn't really 
about slackware in general, just this particular release. Understand now?

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Posted May 5, 2008 8:18 UTC (Mon) by danieldk (subscriber, #27876) [Link]

"The problem when you use Ubuntu is that you get knowledge how to fix ubuntu probs, if you use
red hat, you now how to fix red hat probs, etc. When you know how to fix probs under Slack you
know to fix the same prob on
all other distros."

While I do love Slackware, I have to disagree with this myth. When you learn Slackware, you
learn the Slackware package manager, configuration and its package set. If you know Slackware,
you don't know how to handle RPM, Yum, or  rolling your own RPM packages, you don't know SysV
init scripts, you don't know Anaconda/kickstart, you don't know the networking configuration
set-up of other distros, you don't know SELinux, and the list goes on.

I started with Slackware Linux in 1994. Later I started using Debian and Red Hat-based
distributions, and it took some time to learn the tools for those distributions. Sure, the
transition was fairly easy, but I think it would also be relatively easy for anyone coming
from any other UNIX-like system.

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Posted May 5, 2008 17:11 UTC (Mon) by allesfresser (subscriber, #216) [Link]

I think the point of the "myth" is that with Slackware you know the actual locations and
formats of configuration files, rather than (in recent versions of Fedora and Ubuntu) being
pushed toward point-and-clicky GUI tools.  When you know how things run on Slackware, it's not
too much of a stretch to learn the particulars of how other distros do the same thing, because
you understand the underlying structure.  I know it wasn't too difficult to figure out Debian
packaging when I had to.  Going the other way would be rather painful, I think (but only if
you're coming from the GUI world--if you already know the plumbing through working with the
command line, then any distro is just another dialect.)

(I started out on Slackware myself...13 years ago...wow, is it really that long?)

Slackware 12.1 released

Posted May 4, 2008 23:23 UTC (Sun) by mscs-fulwiler (guest, #51896) [Link]

I am very pleased to see that Pat has his new version up and humming. I 
learned on Slackware many years ago and have a soft spot in my heart for 
it as others have commented on. The 2.6 kernel comes standard and does not 
need to `spun' in as before and all the other goodies updates for all of 
the GUI and development software that some of us depend on. She is still a 
solid little distro and I am glad that Pat Volkerding is still with us an 
keeping Slack Ware up and running. Bravo Again to the Slackware 
Team!   :^)

Dave 

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