The Heron has *crash* landed? [LWN.net]

The Heron has crash landed?

Posted Apr 25, 2008 10:27 UTC (Fri) by dwalters (subscriber, #4207)
In reply to: The Heron has *crash* landed? by ste
Parent article: The Heron has landed

I presume you meant to say that you run Dapper (which is the previous LTS release), not Edgy.

I too specify what is run on the developer workstations at work, and based on the press
release, I'm undoubtedly going to wait until the July point-release is out before upgrading
everybody's desktops.

For the family PCs at home (which were also running Dapper), however, I decided to take the
plunge and I upgraded them from Dapper to Hardy last night.

I wish I hadn't. Now I've got audio problems to deal with in Totem (playing DVDs and movie
files), Rhythmbox, Skype, and Flash (watching YouTube videos).

:-(

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The Heron has *crash* landed?

Posted Apr 25, 2008 11:13 UTC (Fri) by net_bh (subscriber, #28735) [Link]

I wish I hadn't. Now I've got audio problems to deal with in Totem (playing DVDs and movie files), Rhythmbox, Skype, and Flash (watching YouTube videos).

All seem to be related to the move to Pulseaudio. Fedora is going to have these problems too, until Skype and Adobe fix their stuff to support pulseaudio.

There are already workarounds, though. So it shouldn't be too bad hopefully.

PuleAudio

Posted Apr 25, 2008 22:09 UTC (Fri) by rfunk (subscriber, #4054) [Link]

It seems silly to me to expect Skype and Adobe to change their stuff for 
PulseAudio, rather than PulseAudio providing a means to properly work with 
things that aren't PA-aware.

Remember that when ALSA came along intending to replace OSS, ALSA included 
an OSS compatibility layer.  And other audio daemons I've used, such as 
arts, include wrapper programs so that programs that aren't arts-aware (or 
whatever-aware) work properly.

PuleAudio

Posted Apr 26, 2008 11:53 UTC (Sat) by jamesh (subscriber, #1159) [Link]

PulseAudio does provide compatibility support for previous sound APIs, including esound, alsa
and oss.  There are notes about a lot of this at http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup.

Lennart has done a lot of work towards making PulseAudio work with everything, but there is a
limit to what he can do for proprietary apps.  It seems that Skype are the only people in a
position to make Skype work with PA.

The Heron has *crash* landed?

Posted Apr 25, 2008 12:10 UTC (Fri) by ste (guest, #51764) [Link]

Yes, my mistake: I mean't Dapper not Edgy.

I'm with you: I'm going to hold off for a while longer. I find it ironic, 
that I specify Kubuntu rather than Debian so that we can be a bit more 
up-to-date, yet now I'm holding back any way. Makes me wonder if I should 
just stick with Debain for the desktop (all our server are Debian and I'm 
sticking with that).

I tend to go for the current stable Kubuntu realease at home too. Last 
time (Gutsy) the audio messed me around a bit. Now that everything is 
stable with Skype, Flash etc I don't like the sound (pun, harhar) of 
what's to come with Heron...

The Heron has *crash* landed?

Posted Apr 28, 2008 19:39 UTC (Mon) by im14u2c (subscriber, #5246) [Link]

You know... the last LTS was 6.06, not 6.04 as was the original intention. Now 8.04 is going to have a point release in July. Maybe they'd've been better off just making Hardy Heron 8.06 also, so they wouldn't have the distraction of an iffy release in April?