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Fedora goes to a community-dominated boardFedora goes to a community-dominated boardPosted Apr 22, 2008 20:17 UTC (Tue) by ofeeley (guest, #36105)In reply to: Fedora goes to a community-dominated board by sbergman27 Parent article: Fedora goes to a community-dominated board
Or to put it another way: The governance of the Fedora Project is now dominated by the community. Unfortunately -- for detractors of a rapidly-moving, exciting distribution which has made all of its build infrastructure code available to all -- this removes one of the last barbs which has been flung at the project. This presents a problem for those seeking to create negative impressions of Fedora and they will now have to resort to weaselly constructions such as "nearly iron grip."
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Fedora goes to a community-dominated board Posted Apr 22, 2008 20:35 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] And before you wonder if `nearly iron' is as bad as `iron': would *you* want to stand on a bridge made out of nearly iron?
Bridges, and Code is King Posted Apr 22, 2008 21:39 UTC (Tue) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link] That depends? Is a steel bridge nearly iron ? Clearly rust and fool's gold which are both very high in iron aren't suitable for making a good bridge. On the other hand stone and wood are both quite low in iron ordinarily, and have made reliable, and sometimes very pretty bridges for hundreds of years. Also, its 2008 and Unicode has been available on Linux systems for a long while now, time to stop abusing obsolete fixed pitch typefaces and pretending that U+0060 and U+0027 are the pair of (English) facing quote marks you're looking for, try these two instead. But seriously, Code is King, so long as Red Hat's employees do the majority of the work (which they do) then Red Hat controls Fedora, no matter who votes for what in which meeting. Wrestling control away from Red Hat, only to have the project sink without trace, would not be a success story for the "Fedora community" whatever that is. (Is it me? I use Fedora and file some bugs, and sometimes I suggest small patches? Plus some of my software is in Fedora?)
Bridges, and Code is King Posted Apr 22, 2008 22:07 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] That depends? Is a steel bridge “nearly iron” ?Super-RH, Distro of Steel! Clearly rust and fool's gold which are both very high in iron aren't suitable for making a good bridge. On the other hand stone and wood are both quite low in iron ordinarily, and have made reliable, and sometimes very pretty bridges for hundreds of years.So it's like irony, then? (Sorry.) Also, its 2008 and Unicode has been available on Linux systems for a long while now, time to stop abusing obsolete fixed pitch typefaces and pretending that U+0060 and U+0027 are the pair of (English) facing quote marks you're looking for, try ‘these two’ instead.I don't have a keyboard that generates those (does anyone?) so typing them in is much too annoying. No software I have access to replaces normal quote marks with those, and even if they did I defy them to do it reliably in the presence of nested quotation marks and apostrophes (TeX did it, but only by translating ` ' into real quotation marks). Plus, to add insult to injury, hey look identical in most of my system's Unicode fonts unless you blow them up to 20-point plus. Thanks, but no thanks. Way too many downsides. (I know that the backquote is the wrong shape in most modern fonts: perhaps just using ' or " consistently would be preferable.)
Fedora goes to a community-dominated board Posted Apr 22, 2008 21:15 UTC (Tue) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link] Wow. No need for such oversensitivity. I've always liked Redhat's project management style. I was nervous when they started talking about turning Redhat Linux into a community project back in the RedHat Linux Project days. It's worked out pretty well, but I do believe in calling a spade a spade. "Fedora goes to a community-dominated" board is is deceptive, regardless of the fact that I rather prefer the project to remain firmly under RedHat's control. I indicated that in my original post; You have no basis for calling me a detractor. Look at it this way. If republicans were guaranteed 56% of seats in congress and the rest of the seats went to republicans or democrats depending upon their election results, and then we backed that off to only 44% guaranteed seats being guaranteed for republicans, one would hardly call that "Going to a Democrat-dominated Congress". That is as much time as I choose to waste on this topic.
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