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Turnitin and fair use

Turnitin and fair use

Posted Apr 17, 2008 8:29 UTC (Thu) by MathFox (subscriber, #6104)
In reply to: Turnitin and fair use by yodermk
Parent article: Turnitin and fair use

Since plagiarism *is* a problem, for teachers without enough creativity to think up new assignments... Using an automated plagiarism scanner is a great solution for lazy teachers. (I have worked with "plagiarism scanners" for computer code and seen enough "false positives"; Turnitin must have its share of them too.)

Your proposed legal solution does not solve the issue that minors can not enter into contracts; it is the parent/guardian that should sign the contract for the student. A second issue is that contracts signed under pressure are not enforcible... You can argue that the student was forced to accept the Turnitin EULA under undue threat from the school (fail your class). This legal discussion is better done on another website though.


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Turnitin and fair use

Posted Apr 17, 2008 9:08 UTC (Thu) by skitching (subscriber, #36856) [Link]

Why is "plagiarism" a concern at all?

If school reports are being used as a "rating system" by employers as a replacement for a
proper job interview, then that's the employer's problem, not the schools.

If schools are using the fear of a bad school project mark as a threat to force students to
work harder, then they should consider better motivations.

This reminds me of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, where he read/commented on
projects but refused to give any marks because the point was to learn, not to be graded. Many
pupils hated it. I suspect that the types likely to be/become successful open-source
developers would not be bothered though..

Turnitin and fair use

Posted Apr 18, 2008 3:29 UTC (Fri) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link]

... does not solve the issue that minors can not enter into contracts

Yes, they can, in general and in this case in particular. I give a more detailed explanation of this in response to another comment below.

contracts signed under pressure are not enforcible

Only when the pressure (the law calls it "duress") is from the other party to the contract. The pressure here was from the school, whereas the contract was between the Turnitin people and the students.

Amazingly -- since this is such settled law -- the plaintiffs did raise this very issue in this case. The judge shot it down.

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