RHEL 5 IS A BROKEN MESS [LWN.net]

RHEL 5 IS A BROKEN MESS

Posted Apr 16, 2008 10:33 UTC (Wed) by dulles (guest, #45450)
Parent article: Interview: Fedora developers Seth Vidal and Will Woods (Red Hat Magazine)

RHEL 5 IS A BROKEN MESS

More feel-good hype from Redhat. I've filed several bug reports on how yum and the "Redhat
Network" is broken. It appears they were not read by engineering.

A few months ago, I cancelled my Redhat subscription and switched to Kubuntu. So far, I'm
impressed. The Adept Manager actually works with zero dependency errors (try that Redhat).

With Kubuntu, I've saved many hours of "install hell" I'm used to as a Linux user. Thanks to
Linus Torvalds, Linux was never designed to easily install apps. OK, enough feel-good Linux.

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Posted Apr 16, 2008 11:45 UTC (Wed) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]

The phrase "more feel-good hype" suggests there's well known hype coming from RH. Maybe I
haven't been paying enough attention?

I can't comment on RHEL or Fedora, but (K)Ubuntu works fine for me.
I have used many distros over the years, including Mandrake and SuSE (Red Hat derivatives) and
have never experienced dependency issues, or "install hell".

And, by the way, installing software has nothing to do with the kernel, and thus Linus
Torvalds is out of the question. Nice trolling, though.

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Posted Apr 17, 2008 7:38 UTC (Thu) by motk (subscriber, #51120) [Link]

Wait - Alan, had you not publicly given up on anything Red Hat forever and ever back in October last year? http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/09/20/the-next-horizon-how-red-hat-used-yum-to-overcome-rpm-dependency-hell/#comment-24140

RHEL 5 IS A BROKEN MESS

Posted Apr 17, 2008 7:41 UTC (Thu) by motk (subscriber, #51120) [Link]

Sorry dgm, replied to the wrong comment. Bad nerd, no jelly-baby.

RHEL 5 IS A BROKEN MESS

Posted Apr 16, 2008 11:50 UTC (Wed) by Janne (guest, #40891) [Link]

"Thanks to Linus Torvalds, Linux was never designed to easily install apps."

Um, what does Linus have to with installation of apps? Answer: pretty much nothing.

RHEL 5 IS A BROKEN MESS

Posted Apr 16, 2008 12:23 UTC (Wed) by jwboyer (subscriber, #23296) [Link]

So... it's worth pointing out that this article has nothing to do with RHEL, or RHN.  It was
explicitly talking about preupgrade in Fedora.

RHEL 5 IS A BROKEN MESS

Posted Apr 16, 2008 17:45 UTC (Wed) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link]

A user identifying himself as "dulles" posted this identical off-topic message as a comment on the Red Hat Magazine article. It's off-topic because RHEL is not Fedora, and "Red Hat Network" is not mentioned in the article.

RHEL 5 IS A BROKEN MESS

Posted Apr 17, 2008 16:57 UTC (Thu) by lysse (subscriber, #3190) [Link]

Ah, the Ditchwater family... gotta love them.

RHEL 5 IS A BROKEN MESS

Posted Apr 18, 2008 2:36 UTC (Fri) by quotemstr (subscriber, #45331) [Link]

*shrug* We use CentOS 5* at work. Besides the annoying but not fatal ata_piix hang in the 5.0
kernel, everything is just fine. 

* you try convincing work to pay for support.