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Video forums for free softwareVideo forums for free softwarePosted Apr 11, 2008 19:27 UTC (Fri) by bronson (subscriber, #4806)In reply to: Video forums for free software by vmole Parent article: Video forums for free software
The graybeards are out in force today. :) With multi-tens-of-MB links commonplace today (more in Europe and Japan than the US, alas), and >1TB on a 3.5" spindle, who cares how big a video file is? And, I'm afraid you guys have been watching lots of conference proceedings or something. Very few videos are quite so easy to boil down into an easy-to-read transcript. It wouldn't surprise me if very similar arguments were used against the telephone 100 years ago!
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Video forums for free software Posted Apr 11, 2008 19:51 UTC (Fri) by graydon (subscriber, #5009) [Link] "It wouldn't surprise me if very similar arguments were used against the telephone 100 years ago!" Oh please. They're not "arguments against" video, rather qualifications on exactly how much we should expect video to "displace" other things just because it can. And subsequently how much we need to worry about it as the only way things will be done in the future. Here we are 100 years later still reading books, writing papers and "talking" by exchanging text fragments. Why? It's a *good technology* that's much more appropriate than a string of recorded telephone conversations.
Video forums for free software Posted Apr 11, 2008 20:19 UTC (Fri) by vmole (subscriber, #111) [Link] I can download the transcript for a 30 minute interview in a few seconds. The equivalent video is several minutes. And the problem is not so much download time or storage, but *my* time. I'm not against video per-se; there are clearly things for which video is the preferred medium. My objection is the trend for projects to use it for things that are just as easily communicated via text.
Video forums for free software Posted Apr 15, 2008 8:09 UTC (Tue) by appie (subscriber, #34002) [Link] Indeed, however much important it is to not exclude people lacking the required bandwidth and/or cpu power, it's the whole issue of efficiency and wasting _my_ time. Talking about time, it's more circumvent to time the speed in which to take in the information comparing video to text+pictures. I think it already has been pointed out, most people are better writers than actors/teachers. Jotting something down also forces you to rethink and reconsider. Guess it's the 'gray beards' all over again when I point out that educational institutions and students alike all over the world still use... books. Yes, video shows up here and there, but mostly when they add actual value to the process. I never watch tutorials, howtos, articles in video format. It's much easier to soak up the information in a decently written article. If helps a lot of people if the article consists of text plus pictures (screenshots or 'CLI shots'). Still one can time, copy/paste, forward, condense, (dead tree alert) print & read somewhere else - no batteries needed, comment on, search, etc. a text article in a much much more efficient manner than a video/vodcast/screencast/webinar. And that's not even considering the impact it has on indexing in search engines. Not an unimportant part of our online lives. And the person mentioning the telephone: how come we have video telephony for ages now and almost no-one owns/uses one ? For the majority of people it plain just doesn't add much to the communication. I kind of suspect the whole issue of screencasts is technology for the sake of technology. There IS a place for video, but looking at the majority of the screencasts out there i'd say: not the place, nor the time.
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