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Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek)
Sun is still committed to Linux in LAMP, according to
this article on InformationWeek.
"As soon as former MySQL CEO Marten Mickos, now a Sun Microsystems senior VP for databases, took the stage, he was asked what was Sun's commitment to the L in LAMP?... the integrated open source stack that includes Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP.
"The commitment is complete," he responded without hesitation. The scene was The Commons Auditorium at the Austin branch of the University of Texas. It was the site of one historic commitment to Linux --IBM (NYSE: IBM)'s decision in 1999 to become a backer, not an opponent, of the open source operating system."
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Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 10, 2008 15:24 UTC (Thu) by dokhebi (guest, #14023) [Link] If you remove Linux from LAMP it is no longer LAMP. It is now xAMP were x = name of OS. So if x = Solaris it is now SAMP. Some people...
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 11, 2008 2:35 UTC (Fri) by michaeljt (subscriber, #39183) [Link] I'm surprised that the Gnu people aren't campaigning for the GLAMP stack.
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 11, 2008 9:07 UTC (Fri) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link] Because no software in that stack is a part of the GNU project.
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 11, 2008 9:09 UTC (Fri) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link] I mean the software which initial letters are used the the LAMP acronym. GNU libc is, of course, an important part of the GNU project, and LAMP won't work without it.
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 17, 2008 11:05 UTC (Thu) by lysse (subscriber, #3190) [Link] uClibc dietlibc newlibc BSD libc ...are you sure..?
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 11, 2008 9:25 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] The neurologists will start campaigning for a cAMP stack soon (c == 'computer', also 'cyclic' after clock cycles of course). Such systems are very good at retaining information fed into them. ;} (what? random biology geekdom not welcome here?)
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 11, 2008 3:15 UTC (Fri) by PO8 (guest, #41661) [Link] No, no, you just have to run LOLaris.
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 17, 2008 11:05 UTC (Thu) by lysse (subscriber, #3190) [Link] i can has pizza(box)?
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 10, 2008 16:31 UTC (Thu) by mheily (subscriber, #27123) [Link] I was reading a Sun whitepaper about logical domains (LDOMs) and noticed that they mentioned running Linux systems as guests on SPARC hardware alongside of Solaris guests. They had three classes of systems "enterprise application", "enterprise database", and "web". Of these three classes, Solaris was used to run the "enterprise" stuff, while Linux was used to run the new open-source web stuff.Perhaps their strategy is to position themselves as both the Enterprise Unix vendor and an Open-Source *nix vendor. Since Solaris is free (as in beer), and Sun makes most of their money on hardware and support contracts, it makes sense to support multiple operating systems. They even support running Windows on their x86-based servers.
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 10, 2008 17:03 UTC (Thu) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link] > They even support running Windows on their x86-based servers Ah, has it come to that? The poor devils, they must be desperate....
Poor devils? Posted Apr 10, 2008 17:40 UTC (Thu) by pr1268 (subscriber, #24648) [Link] Just curious, to whom are you referring to when you mention "poor devils"? AFAIK you can currently run Windows on an x86 architecture inside a virtual machine in Linux, so it seems Sun's white paper is making a redundant statement. Different topic: Did anyone notice the troll-like comment from username "TIM" on the InformationWeek article? Quote: What's with you guys freaks of Linux's???? Linux is nothing to me!!! Even if the world embrace LINUX I guartee you that I WILL NEVER GO THAT WAY [sic]. Fine. With an attitude like that, Linux users don't want you coming this way, either.
Poor devils? Posted Apr 10, 2008 19:27 UTC (Thu) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link] > Just curious, to whom are you referring to when you mention "poor devils"? I was referring to the "they" in the sentence just above my statement. In other words, Sun. Their current position, wherein they are playing nicely with microsoft, reminds me of a similar situation with SGI, who once owned the high end desktop. They also fell on hard times, and flirted with microsoft. a sad story indeed.
Poor devils? Posted Apr 17, 2008 11:07 UTC (Thu) by lysse (subscriber, #3190) [Link] > Did anyone notice the troll-like comment from username "TIM" on the InformationWeek article? I suspect that's probably a parody...
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 10, 2008 18:42 UTC (Thu) by jordanb (subscriber, #45668) [Link] So in other words.. their strategy is a photocopy of IBM's strategy?
Mickos, As New Sun Exec: Linux Will Stay In LAMP (InformationWeek) Posted Apr 11, 2008 11:02 UTC (Fri) by larryr (guest, #4030) [Link] So in other words.. their strategy is a photocopy of IBM's strategy?In that market/space/sector, described at that level of detail, it seems to me like that is consistent with what their strategies have been since at least the dotcom era, and a natural strategy for any company with their resources. I suppose if Toyota has a strategy of providing light trucks, SUVs, minivans, and compact and mid-size sedans, through a network of dealerships which also provide parts and service, their strategy could be described as a photocopy of Ford's, but I think it would be specious to say that. Larry@Riedel.org
LAMP SCHMAMP Posted Apr 11, 2008 1:10 UTC (Fri) by Tuxie (subscriber, #47191) [Link] PLEASE let the LAMP acronym die already! There are so many alternatives in Free Software land. L: Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, OpenSolaris, several more. A: Apache, Nginx, Lighttpd, dozens more. M: MySQL, PostgreSQL, FirebirdSQL, SQLite, and more... P: PHP, Ruby, Python, Perl, Groovy, Scala, Tcl, Smalltalk, Lisp, the list can go on forever. In many cases there are valid reasons to go with a Linux+Apache+MySQL+PHP solution but more often than not I feel that the reason is because of a stupid acronym rather than a real decision. DO NOT BASE YOUR TECHNICAL DECISIONS ON CATCHY BUZZWORD ACRONYMS!
LAMP SCHMAMP Posted Apr 11, 2008 9:28 UTC (Fri) by mheily (subscriber, #27123) [Link] I agree. LAMP is a marketing term that sounds pleasing to English-speaking people. If GNU, FLOSS, and Linux weren't such terrible sounding names, we could use them instead. From now on, I will recommend using the OWDP stack for web-enabled applications. O - Operating system W - Webserver D - Database server P - Programming language
LAMP SCHMAMP Posted Apr 11, 2008 9:42 UTC (Fri) by cyrus (subscriber, #36858) [Link] Actually, the way Linus pronounces Linux sounds pretty nice. Here in Germany, it's pronounced the same. I agree that it sounds rather terrible when it's mispronounced.
LAMP SCHMAMP Posted Apr 12, 2008 11:02 UTC (Sat) by rjamestaylor (guest, #339) [Link] May I recommend:O - Operating system W - Webserver D - Database server P - Programming language Yeah, I'm a SysAdmin at a hosting company...P - Programming language W - Webserver N - Network OS D - Database
LAMP SCHMAMP Posted Apr 12, 2008 12:16 UTC (Sat) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link] How about just: "Free Software Web stack"? "Open Source web services"? Solaris (or at least a version of it), Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Apache, Lighttp, Mysql, Postgresql, SQLite, Derby, Python, Perl, PHP, Ruby, Java (at least a version of it) etc etc. Who wants to try to figure out how to pronounce SLFOALMPSDPPPRJ?!
OWDP SCHWOWDP Posted Apr 14, 2008 0:07 UTC (Mon) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] From now on, I will recommend using the OWDP stack for web-enabled applications.Great: that way Microsoft will be able to hijack your acronym (with Windows, IIS, SQL Server, ASP.NET) with total impunity. At least throw in a "free" somewhere, so they feel ashamed of doing it.
OWDP SCHWOWDP Posted Apr 14, 2008 0:58 UTC (Mon) by Tuxie (subscriber, #47191) [Link] Microsoft Windows ASP.NET Microsoft SQL Server IIS
LAMP SCHMAMP Posted Apr 17, 2008 11:09 UTC (Thu) by lysse (subscriber, #3190) [Link] Well, obviously the database underpins the entire structure. And the purpose of the webserver is simply to, er, escort the application to its clients. So I suggest that the new acronym should reflect this: D -atabase O -perating system P -rogramming language E -scort service
LAMP SCHMAMP Posted Apr 18, 2008 14:38 UTC (Fri) by kevinbsmith (subscriber, #4778) [Link] As someone who feels that (relational) databases are overused, I'll agree that DOPE is a great acronym for any system that forces you to have a database even when you don't want one. Rails, I'm looking at you!
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