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An opportunity to End Software Patents: ESP briefs Court in its historic rehearing of the Bilski case

An opportunity to End Software Patents: ESP briefs Court in its historic rehearing of the Bilski case

Posted Apr 9, 2008 21:12 UTC (Wed) by droundy (subscriber, #4559)
In reply to: An opportunity to End Software Patents: ESP briefs Court in its historic rehearing of the Bilski case by jgjf
Parent article: An opportunity to End Software Patents: ESP briefs Court in Bilski case rehearing

I find that statement evocative. In fact, that is probably the most useful point of view I have come upon for distinguishing this idea of "patentable", a kind of looking at "patenetable" from the "other direction", by asking "What is the consequence of not patenting this idea?"

You make some good points, but leave out the situation in which patents are truly beneficial, which is not situations where the patent lures out into the open what would otherwise be a trade secret, but rather techniques which would never be developed if it weren't for the profit provided by patent protection.

For instance, the development of new medicines is incredibly expensive, but once a drug is developed, it's impossible to keep its formula as a secret. If it weren't easy to analyze it to determine what it's made of, we'd require that the drug manufacture publicize it anyways, so that we can reasonably test its safety.

I doubt that there are very many areas of technology in which a research effort is only justified by the possibility of patent protection. But on the other hand, as far as I know there is only one company left in the US that arguably does "pure" research (IBM), which suggests that perhaps the rules aren't overly biased in the inventor's favor.

In any case, as far as I can tell, the appropriate question when considering the utility of patents is not "What is the consequence of not patenting this idea?" but rather "Would this idea be developed if it couldn't be patented."


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An opportunity to End Software Patents: ESP briefs Court in its historic rehearing of the Bilski case

Posted Apr 9, 2008 23:11 UTC (Wed) by aegl (subscriber, #37581) [Link]

For several decades compamies seemed happy to spend money on developing software without the potential benefits of patenting that software. Microsoft, Oracle, Symantec, SAP, etc. all were founded and grew in a legal environment that did not allow software to be patented. So the question of whether anyone would bother to develop software without the benefits of a patent system to protect their work has already been answered.

A better question would be: "Did the decision to allow patents on software result in increased innovation?"

medical patent benefits questionable as well

Posted Apr 10, 2008 4:01 UTC (Thu) by pflugstad (subscriber, #224) [Link]

Actually, patents in the medical arena are rather questionable as well.

From (copied from http://www.tomhull.com/blog/archives/540-Patent-Myths.html):

The extraordinary profits attainable via patents steers privately funded research toward patentable products, away from any refinement of proven generic treatments. The research is mostly done in secret, where other researchers cannot critique or contribute. The results, and their marketing, are colored by business interests. ...

Needless to say, the recent high profile drug recalls (Vioxx, depression drugs, etc), and issues with "new" drugs (patent protected of course) being less effective than old generic ones (but that fact hidden by bad, misleading or incomplete pharma-funded studies) highlight this perfectly.

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