GNU/Linux World Domination for the Wrong Reasons (Datamation)
Posted Mar 12, 2008 2:14 UTC (Wed) by
martinfick (subscriber, #4455)
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GNU/Linux World Domination for the Wrong Reasons (Datamation) by karim
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GNU/Linux World Domination for the Wrong Reasons (Datamation)
Freedom is a loaded word, and it's unfortunately relative. Your freedom of thought, and mine,
is limited by our brains' limited storage. You are in fact *not* free to think of things or
associate things you have not already stored. Sucks being human.
You are simply confusing the word freedom with capability here. You are not capable
of running 100MPH, but yet you are free to do so.
Fact is there are plenty of things in life that you aren't "free" to hack. The bridge you
cross over with your car, the plane you take, the electric grid that powers your computer,
etc. And you and I would really rather it be that way: we just feel safer if they'd work. That
doesn't preclude the fact there are civil engineers, mechanical engineers and electrical
engineers who are perfectly capable of usefully hacking bridges, planes and electrical grids,
respectively in that *very specific* order, without causing a problem.
Here you used the word capable correctly, :) but then you give examples which simply state
that I am not free to control other people's property. For those who have actually
tried to define freedom, it tends to mean having the ability to control one's own
property, not the property of others.
Despite your argument about freedom, that very reply you wrote was likely written on hardware
for which you have no ability to modify. In fact, while software developers sometimes may
entertain doing nitty-gritty hardware modifications (desoldering, replacing chips, etc.) the
vast majority just want one thing: hardware that works (i.e. no bugs, no quirks, no racy
behavior, etc.) Yet, such modifiability would likely be a desirable feature by those that do
design hardware. For them, having the freedom to modify their hardware is likely of interest.
Again, not without coincidence, there are FLOSS hardware projects out there. Surely we would
all benefit from having hardware that is free as in freedom. Yet, I don't think I'd be too
wrong in saying that *all* "free software" advocates are running unfree hardware.
Lots of muddying going on here, starting with confusing (cap)ability with
freedom again, value judgements on what some people want (unrelated to freedom),
making the incorrect assumption that the existence of free harwardare projects
means that hardware isn't normally free, and a final assertion that is most likely
way off base since the only unfree (not unmodifiable) parts to most hardware is
the software.
See ... it's all a matter of which layer you want to build on. If you're a hardware developer,
the manufacturing process is where you want to stop, if you're a software developer it's the
hardware, if you're a user it's the software. At each and every stop the individual expects
the underlying layer to just work.
This logic is getting tiring. While I no longer want to work on my car,
I certainly want the freedom to do so, or to hire someone else to do so.
I think car users want that freedom and expect it, so much that they could
almost never even imagine that they wouldn't have it. One of the issues that
we are talking about is infact informing users that they don't have that
freedom with software.
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