Did he say anything? [LWN.net]

Did he say anything?

Posted Feb 22, 2008 12:46 UTC (Fri) by nlucas (subscriber, #33793)
In reply to: Did he say anything? by Frej
Parent article: Planning for Ubuntu 8.10ish - The Intrepid Ibex

<rant>
If that version allows one to finally configure bridging or at least not f*ing around ones
configuration I would be happy.
</rant>

Network-manager is great on laptops, but when you want to do your own static advanced
configuration it forces you to remove the whole thing.

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Did he say anything?

Posted Feb 22, 2008 13:25 UTC (Fri) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

In Debian, at least, Network manager will ignore any interfaces you have configured in
/etc/network/interfaces and there is support for bridging interfaces for that style of network
configuration.

Ubuntu, unless they are morons, should have the same sort of behavior since everything they
use (of this sort of thing) is from Debian.

Did he say anything?

Posted Feb 22, 2008 14:27 UTC (Fri) by nlucas (subscriber, #33793) [Link]

They may not be morons, but believe it's more important to make simple things work for morons
than have features work for "power users". Which is worst, I let others to decide.

On the other hand, if you remove network-manager (just an "apt-get remove" away), the Debian
configuration works on Ubuntu as well.

Did he say anything?

Posted Feb 24, 2008 9:31 UTC (Sun) by muwlgr (guest, #35359) [Link]

Yes, /etc/network/interfaces and GUI frontends like NetworkManager are certainly stomping on
each others. E.g., I boot Kubuntu 7.04 LiveCD (or was that 7.10 ?) on Sony VAIO VGN-TX5MRN,
and to operate wireless interface (eth1) from inside KDE, I have first to run 'ifdown' for it,
as it is listed in /e*/n*/i*s and brought up on the LiveCD startup (naturally, without any
knowledge about SSID, passphrase and so on).

I would wish that all these GUI configuration tools be wrappers/frontends to their
command-line underlyings, which in turn could easily be used without any GUI.