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Who Cares? (besides gamers)

Who Cares? (besides gamers)

Posted Feb 19, 2008 16:55 UTC (Tue) by tjc (subscriber, #137)
Parent article: Reverse engineering: more than NVIDIA deserves?

I'm wondering, is there anyone who *doesn't* play 3D games who even cares about this?

I've been using Intel's open-source drivers for years without any problems. I'm in the process
of buying a new notebook, and the first thing I did was eliminate from consideration anything
that doesn't have Intel GMA X3100 graphics.  That still leaves me with a lot of good systems
to choose from.

I guess if I were a gamer I would just dual boot Windows.  If you're going to use proprietary
software for something as critical as a graphics driver, why not go whole-hog and use a
proprietary OS as well?


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Who Cares? (besides gamers)

Posted Feb 19, 2008 17:27 UTC (Tue) by wingo (guest, #26929) [Link]

A working nouveau is important even to those who use nv; without it, my ppc laptop won't
display to a projector. I haven't had 3d for years -- it sounds nice in theory ;)

Who Cares? (besides gamers)

Posted Feb 19, 2008 21:16 UTC (Tue) by oak (subscriber, #2786) [Link]

> I'm wondering, is there anyone who *doesn't* play 3D games who even 
cares about this?

Hm. I care about things like: stability, low noise / power consumption / 
heat (especially in summer, integrated gfx chips are great here), good 
video quality & connections, full support for latest X extensions (Xv, 
Xrandr, ...) etc.  Some 3D support is nice, but my 3D gaming is mostly 
retro, so about any 3D card suffices.

> I guess if I were a gamer I would just dual boot Windows. If you're 
going to use proprietary software for something as critical as a graphics 
driver, why not go whole-hog and use a proprietary OS as well?

Or buy a games console...

Who Cares? (besides gamers)

Posted Feb 20, 2008 17:10 UTC (Wed) by mrshiny (subscriber, #4266) [Link]

I bet a lot of the nVidia linux users are windows dual-booters.  I, for one, dual-boot Windows
to play games.  But I still use the proprietary nVidia driver because it beats the pants off
the nv driver.  In fact my current notebook doesn't even work with the nv driver, but even on
my last two PCs the nv driver was only barely adequate.  

Some users have certain requirements from their hardware: for me, acceptable 3D for games is
one requirement, and also, I stopped buying ATI after I had numerous bad experiences with
their (proprietary windows and free linux) drivers.  When I buy a nVidia card I know that my
3D will work, my dual-head will work, and my TV-out will work.  And because I do use Windows
for gaming I can't settle for an Intel card even though I would like an open driver.

Given that I am already going to buy a nVidia card for use in Windows, is it still a
contradiction that I want a free driver in Linux?  I'd say no.  My only other choice would be
to buy a game console, but that's even less free/open than a computer.

As for "going whole-hog" and using Windows exclusively... let's not exaggerate.  Windows is
for certain tasks only, mainly games.  Just because I play games doesn't mean I shouldn't be
using Linux the rest of the time.

Who Cares? (besides gamers)

Posted Feb 20, 2008 17:21 UTC (Wed) by ikm (subscriber, #493) [Link]

> I'm wondering, is there anyone who *doesn't* play 3D games who even cares about this?

Content producers (as opposed to content consumers) — 3d modeling, games/3d-enabled soft
development, CAD applications (though I'm not sure there are Linux apps for the latter). 3D is
used not only to draw some fantasy settings, but to visualize real-world structures
(chemistry, medical, physical appliances etc). Another use for 3d hardware with Linux is to
build public terminals/etc with 3D eye candy. Stuff like that. This crowd is not large,
though.

Who Cares? (besides gamers)

Posted Feb 21, 2008 22:20 UTC (Thu) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

> This crowd is not large, though.

That was my thought, that this is 99% gamers, and 1% everything else.

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