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LCA: Disintermediating distributionsLCA: Disintermediating distributionsPosted Feb 6, 2008 23:18 UTC (Wed) by jdub (subscriber, #27)In reply to: LCA: Disintermediating distributions by TRS-80 Parent article: LCA: Disintermediating distributions
Note that the thought experiment was not about "making packages for distributions", but "what would happen if we take distributions out of the picture?". I think that misunderstanding is the basis for your response.
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LCA: Disintermediating distributions Posted Feb 6, 2008 23:33 UTC (Wed) by TRS-80 (subscriber, #1804) [Link] And I don't think you can take distros out of the picture - as I said, "Integration is what distros do, and is driven by the overarching decisions of the distro" so you're forcing upstream to make these decisions. Ubuntu's choice of upstart is great, but OpenSolaris uses SMF - why should an upstream project have to choose one or be burdened by supporting both? Maybe D-Bus activation is a better choice for some programs, but not all.
LCA: Disintermediating distributions Posted Feb 6, 2008 23:40 UTC (Wed) by jdub (subscriber, #27) [Link] If your conclusion is that distributions can't be taken out of the picture, then you're not taking part in the thought experiment. That's okay, but I'm more interested in the thought experiment than defending the status quo (which I can do very well for myself, but find it unchallenging and lacking in philosophical value). :-)
LCA: Disintermediating distributions Posted Feb 6, 2008 23:52 UTC (Wed) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link] The "experiment" is ongoing. You can always install packages directly and not through a distribution. The fact is that most of us use a proper distribution and don't build Linux from scratch. Binary packages provided by third parties to Linux are known to be of lower quality (to say the least). And if you want to completely eliminate distributions, you won't really have reference platforms, and binary packages may be even more of a pain.
LCA: Disintermediating distributions Posted Feb 7, 2008 0:02 UTC (Thu) by jdub (subscriber, #27) [Link] ... but the key to this is figuring out what could be better, rather than actively choosing the worst outcome. :-)
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