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Nokia to acquire TrolltechNokia to acquire TrolltechPosted Jan 28, 2008 11:06 UTC (Mon) by rossburton (subscriber, #7254)In reply to: Nokia to acquire Trolltech by and Parent article: Nokia to acquire Trolltech
Nokia are a Symbian shop who has a small division which uses GTK+. Nokia sell something in the order of hundred of millions of phones every nanosecond which all run Symbian. As the press release mentions S40/S60, my guess is that they are planning on re-invent Series 60 on Qt.
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Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 28, 2008 11:18 UTC (Mon) by kripkenstein (subscriber, #43281) [Link] > As the press release mentions S40/S60, my guess is that they are planning on re-invent Series 60 on Qt. Yes, that was my thinking as well - clearly there will be some connection to Nokia's S60 somehow. Perhaps it'll use Qt or some part of Qt, who knows. I'm sure Nokia has a specific goal in mind when it decided on this move. Not sure what Qt will bring, though - letting people code apps that are cross-platform and can hence run on other platforms than S60 seems counterproductive for Nokia. Or perhaps Nokia was concerned about competition from Qtopia? No idea. But it seems obvious that Nokia is primarily interested in Trolltech for use on mobile devices (Nokia being, well, *Nokia*), and not on desktop computers. What this means for KDE, time will tell. P.S. Looks like I predicted this just last week, missing only by 5 years or so ;) http://lwn.net/Articles/266069/
Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 28, 2008 12:36 UTC (Mon) by jpetso (guest, #36230) [Link] > P.S. Looks like I predicted this just last week, missing only > by 5 years or so ;) > http://lwn.net/Articles/266069/ Heh. I'd say they've read your comment and then instantly decided on doing so :P
Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 28, 2008 14:40 UTC (Mon) by nhippi (guest, #34640) [Link] Not sure what Qt will bring, though - letting people code apps that are cross-platform and can hence run on other platforms than S60 seems counterproductive for Nokia.
Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 28, 2008 17:42 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link] 5. Nokia gets to license the QT/Nokia platform to proprietary-software-making third parties and control the platform. If they move to the Linux kernel, decide to license to third parties, and is able to make QT very attractive for developers they get a strong chance to unite the Linux mobile phone market around their banner.
Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 28, 2008 17:12 UTC (Mon) by sbishop (subscriber, #33061) [Link] I don't follow Trolltech and KDE very closely, but I do know that Nokia is using WebKit in its S60 phones: http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/S60browser/ WebKit is the Apple fork of the KDE HTML library (KHTML) which Trolltech has recently decided to include in Qt proper. (WebKit is used in Apple's Safari browser, among others.) The code gets around. :) There's even been talk of using WebKit with Konqueror, taking it full circle.
Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 28, 2008 17:47 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link] Two other webkit browsers for Linux that I've noticed is the Epiphany-webkit varient.. were they swapped out Gecko for webkit (for the purpose of reducing resource usage for Gnome users) and the Midori browser. For those people seeking a lightweight GTK-only C-only browser for their desktops should check out Midori. Should go nice with XFCE when it's mature.
Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 28, 2008 20:21 UTC (Mon) by HoserHead (subscriber, #828) [Link] I have two questions regarding Midori: How is C-only a feature? Why would a user care what language his/her applications is programmed in? How is C-only possible? WebKit is written in C++.
Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 28, 2008 20:37 UTC (Mon) by i3839 (subscriber, #31386) [Link] It's using the Webkit version ported to GTK, WebkitGTK, and GTK is C. Users should care in what language their software is written because if it's in a language they don't know or like, they won't hack on it. (And please no programming language flame war here, there are enough hooks to grab for the bored and inclined. And no GTK versus Qt silliness either, thank you.)
Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 28, 2008 21:59 UTC (Mon) by HoserHead (subscriber, #828) [Link] Sure, GTK is C-only, but WebKit (even WebKit-GTK; WebKit is written in C++, even if its widget bindings are written in C) isn't. It seems silly to ignore a hugely important component of a web browser in its description.
Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 28, 2008 23:34 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link] Well C/C++ then. Doesn't realy matter to me.' There isn't any higher level languages like XUL, Python, Mono, or whatnot being added to the mix, which was my point. Should be very lightweight and being GTK should work well in other minimalist environments and XFCE.. no big Gnome or KDE dependancies required.
Nokia to acquire Trolltech Posted Jan 30, 2008 20:33 UTC (Wed) by i3839 (subscriber, #31386) [Link] I tried Midori out, and it uses much less memory than Firefox (half or less), but it's as slow or slower, at least rendering and scrolling. It also doesn't render all pages correctly, so all in all it has a long way to go.
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