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Is Gentoo in crisis?Is Gentoo in crisis?Posted Jan 17, 2008 14:24 UTC (Thu) by shieldsd (subscriber, #20198)Parent article: Is Gentoo in crisis?
Another case study in the problems of open-source governance. Success requires not just good code, but equally good leadership, each and every day. A project cannot just be just a union of developers, rather one needs a collective group working in unison. A key point made here is that success also requires lowering the barriers of entry to potential new developers. As Daniel makes clear, the path to become a Gentoo developer is now too long and too arduous. Long-term sucess requires making the project more hospitable to new members. thanks,dave http://gotoxo.wordpress.com
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Is Gentoo in crisis? Posted Jan 17, 2008 18:05 UTC (Thu) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link] OTOH, you'ĺl get nowhere fast if the developers of the code aren't up to snuff. And maintaining a distribution is much worse than any run-of-the-mill project: There the problems are in the interaction of components that, by themselves, are already complex; and the codebase to be managed is the sum of thousands of individual packages.
Is Gentoo in crisis? Posted Jan 19, 2008 1:22 UTC (Sat) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link] Another case study in the problems of open-source governance. I think you mean community-developed software governance. Open source software can be produced by strongly governed, highly organized companies such as IBM or Sun without the kinds of problems we're talking about here.
Is Gentoo in crisis? Posted Feb 12, 2008 12:09 UTC (Tue) by pratyeka (guest, #50465) [Link] I wholeheartedly agree that barriers to new developers are too high. I have modified an ebuild before, submitted patches for a couple (from memory) and am trying to create some totally new ones. But it's really hard to get help... eg: #gentoo-dev doesnt give voice. Two other points: - And the whole overlays thing is really user-unfriendly. My suggestion is that there should be a 'search overlays as well' flag on emerge (which triggers downloading every overlay), with flashy red warnings etc. if a user tries to install overlaid packages. This saves USER time and hassle, which is more important than computer time. - Gentoo's VOIP is totally broken, asterisk is ancient, heaps of packages are missing. I'm trying to get in to this but the people I ran in to on IRC (#gentoo-voip) seemed defensive almost to the point of hostility. That's fine but roll over, I'm going to just make some ebuilds for asterisk/asterfax. Screw this 'overlay' stuff, it's like someone's private domain.
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