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Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs
Mandriva and Turbolinux have announced the creation of a joint venture called "Manbo-Labs," the purpose of which is to create a common base distribution that both can build their products on. "Manbo-Labs' team is composed of more than ten developers from France, Japan, Brazil and also includes developers from the community. Altogether, they have been working on building a common Linux base system to be released in April 2008. Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring will be based on this system."
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Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 16, 2008 15:35 UTC (Wed) by elanthis (guest, #6227) [Link] Hmm. I recall both of these companies, along with a number of others, doing something similar in the past... Why don't they just pick an existing distribution to build on, like Fedora? The less incompatible distributions the better, in my opinion, especially when most of the incompatibilities are for no technical reason what-so-ever, instead just being a lack of coordinated efforts. (Which I'm sure if the exact same thinking that led to this new Manbo-Labs deal.)
Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 16, 2008 15:44 UTC (Wed) by i3839 (guest, #31386) [Link] Or spend more time on improving the upstream packages instead of working around it on a distro level. That way a lot of distro work is shared between all distros.
Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 16, 2008 16:24 UTC (Wed) by coriordan (guest, #7544) [Link] That's kinda what they're doing. They're partly consolidating two distros to reduce duplicated effort so that less work is needed for the same amount of progress at the distro level.
Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 16, 2008 21:00 UTC (Wed) by AdamW (guest, #48457) [Link] As most Linux distributors do, Mandriva and TurboLinux both contribute as many changes as possible upstream. This is just common sense, as it reduces the burden on the distribution's own maintainers. There are always, however, circumstances where this is not possible. Adam Williamson Mandriva
Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 17, 2008 16:37 UTC (Thu) by iabervon (subscriber, #722) [Link] There's still the issue of how exactly to turn upstream projects into distro packages, which is often not of any concern to the upstream project and distros don't necessarily make the same choices. If you've got a project with a bunch of optional parts that each have different dependencies but are developed together and selected in the upstream distribution at compile time, it can be unclear how to package this for binary distribution. For example, if you've got a music player that can optionally support a variety of file formats, but needs a different external library for each and generates a different binary plugin for each, it's hard to give a good policy for what goes in the music player package and what goes in add-on packages. It helps if all of the distros form a consensus is there's no distro-specific policy reason not to match.
Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 16, 2008 16:39 UTC (Wed) by fandom (subscriber, #4028) [Link] Actually Mandrake was not part of United Linux
Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 16, 2008 16:43 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link] But Conectiva was. Mandriva = Mandrake + Conectiva.
Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 16, 2008 21:35 UTC (Wed) by eru (subscriber, #2753) [Link] pick an existing distribution to build on, like Fedora?I seem to recall both Mandriva (or more precisely the Mandrake part of its ancestry) and Turbolinux were both originally Red Hat derivatives.
Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 16, 2008 16:22 UTC (Wed) by Jel (guest, #22988) [Link] Given that Turbolinux have signed patent deals with Microsoft, I somehow doubt their project will be a beneficial thing.
Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 16, 2008 18:19 UTC (Wed) by freggy (guest, #37477) [Link] From Mandriva's Cooker development mailing list:
Mandriva and Turbolinux create Manbo-Labs Posted Jan 17, 2008 10:38 UTC (Thu) by coriordan (guest, #7544) [Link] Thanks Jel and freggy for the reminder and info.
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