|| ||Theo de Raadt <deraadt-AT-cvs.openbsd.org>|
|| ||Re: Real men don't attack straw men|
|| ||Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:22:04 -0700|
|| ||"Benjamin M. A'Lee" <bma+lists-AT-subvert.org.uk>, rms-AT-gnu.org,
> And the GPLv3? He was the puppet that sold it, but the text was
> mostly written by a bunch of lawyers who will take care of it after
> Richard dies. And they've made sure that there are holes in the
> less-free GPLv3, and they will make a lot of money off those who
> voilate the interpretation they get out of judges, once Richard dies.
> Ethics? Who cares. Once Richard dies, it will be a feeding frenzy.
> His hypocrisy just makes it even more of a sure thing.
By this I mean the GPLv3 and GPLv2 could mean exactly what they are
written to mean, and thus be easily understood once court cases happen
(... OK, now nearly everyone is laughing, but try to re-read it
... but when the leader hypocritically walks around describing new
'rules' that people must follow for 'his approval'... that won't
impress a judge later. It will un-impress a judge later. It will
show that the author's intent was muddled. It will show that the
authors who adopted the license had a muddled viewpoint. It's nice to
have a public archive of Richard's spew since we don't have to save
each message; it shows a pattern of his own GPL'd software being
exempt from the rules he holds everyone to, especially special targets
(and apparently we are target of the month).
Richard, and many of you, live in the US where case law will decide
some of these issues. I don't think that is a good thing, but it is
what will happen, at least in the US, if the economy doesn't tank fast
enough to make 'the empire' irrelevant.
But once Richard dies, what happens then will not be predicated on
dead Richard's stupid rules. (Perhaps his leg will get cut off).
As well, we know that this GPLv3 thing was mostly designed by Eben and
friends, and they hope to outlive Richard, and very richly indeed).
What has Richard done recently, except moan and set unreasonable
standards for projects he has nothing to do with... on our mailing
Regarding the 'plural' FSF and their agenda these days... I think we
all know that crackpot Richard is no longer the real leader. He's a
senile puppet who gets lots of flights paid for by your misguided
donations dollars to ensure he's kept out of touch (except on one
airline, I think Delta, who banned him for air-rage a decade ago on
his way to a Usenix conference). The real FSF agenda has been dumbed
down from what Richard used to believe, and it will dumb down further
as he loses control (except for the particularily nasty legal side
parcelled out to Eben's SFLC). Meanwhile, Richard cranks up 'his
rules' against rather small groups (like OpenBSD) because he lost the
OS war with HURD, and the Linux people don't care what he says. Wait,
it isn't that they don't care what he says -- they don't give a rats
damn. He has absolutely zero credit with them. Richard tried
repeatedly to screw Linux as a whole, and it's just that noone has
really let the press know yet in those terms. Richard is irrelevant
Richard does not understand that the entire free source world is a
meritocracy of source code creation and modification. He has done
nothing in 10-15 years, except wave his long hair and moan in front of
crowds, and lay down ground rules for projects he has no actual
I commited a 2500 line diff today becuase it was fun. It will let two
other developers (who I raced to write this..) continue their work on
a priv-sep snmp daemon (translation: no holes, hopefully, ever).
Yeah, not everything is glory, but it was code that I produced, and it
was fun, and it will matter to some, and it is what actually matters
'as credit' in our communities. I did not actually do much except put
in the time and the effort to do what others could have done.
Meanwhile, Richard writes no code, thus he does not matter, and walks
around talking about what we do or don't do, and with all his spare
time he doesn't even do the RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS NO
TALKING BULLSHIT. And so he talks BULLSHIT, and gets called a
hypocrite. But he's in too deep, isn't he.
His credit has degraded to zero, and his foaming on relatively small
mailing lists makes it go even faster. His hypocrisy is in part
because he has no control anymore; his continual protests on our lists
are because he has no control on lists where it might matter. His
continual adjustment of his rules is because he can find no "edge"
anymore. He is irrelevant, and he can't cope with that.
Richard is not even anymore an alternative viewpoint that should be
considered, for the simple reason that any road towards his absolutist
views ensures that his hypocrisy will be exposed.
It's like the TV advertisement of the monk who protects turtles and
bugs, but then kills germs when he sneezes into kleenex -- what a
shock; but that is a funny advertisement. Richard is not a funny
advertisement. He's a pathetic joke. He should spot the falicy,
and back down.
No leader with such a pile of FSF donation money should come onto our
list and picks a fight where he looks like a hypocrite. He thinks he
can afford it, but in fact he is the last person who can afford it.
He's lashing out in directions that he thinks he can get away with,
and that is because he would look even more stupid on mailing lists
for major Linux vendors. Linux. Linux. Linux. Can you imagine
him going onto LKML? I'd watch. It'd be funny. (LKM is the Linux
kernel mailing list. Note. Linux, Linux, Linux.)
As for ourselves, we are not afraid to keep being brave by giving our
software away. We'll keep doing what is right, giving software away
in the ways that please us, and Richard Stallman and his stupid
rules-for-approval can go to hell (and hopefully soon... because it
will get him off our mailing lists).
We'll keep doing what we do, and Richard has only hurt himself by
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