Posted Dec 14, 2007 1:30 UTC (Fri) by DonDiego
In reply to: codec quality
Parent article: Specifying codecs for the web
You seem to be taking issue with my use of the word "crap". I'll retract that term and let the horse - Monty - speak for himself:
<xiphmont_> Vorbis still stands up nicely. Theora, OTOH, is a a bit embarrassing.
<xiphmont_> rather, it's a bit embarrassing until you look at the code, then it's alot embarrassing.
<xiphmont_> and that's 70% 'really fucking stupid encoder, really On2, be ashamed' and 40% 'format design flaws'. It's so bad it adds up to 110%.
<xiphmont_> I plan to help Theora limp along not too embarrassingly until it can be replaced for real-- possibly 2-4 years.
<xiphmont_> Theora is actually fixable tho. The amount of low-hanging fruit is staggering.
<xiphmont_> I mean, an entropy backend that results in *more* bits being written than went in? It's just... wow.
That statement is taken from #mplayerdev on freenode.
Now ad hominem attacks are not going to take us anywhere. I am afraid you are attacking the messenger bringing you bad news.
There are some inconvenient truths that need to be faced:
- Theora is not going to make it into the W3C recommendation. A lack of patent encumbrances is not enough to get it there.
- Theora is not good enough to compete with the current generation of video codecs nor with the last.
- There is no assurance that Theora is free of patent encumbrances.
The sooner these facts are accepted the sooner solutions that have a better chance of succeeding can be found.
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