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h264 is NOT proprietaryh264 is NOT proprietaryPosted Dec 12, 2007 21:47 UTC (Wed) by cortana (subscriber, #24596)In reply to: h264 is NOT proprietary by khim Parent article: Specifying codecs for the web
You have pushed x264 all over the comments on this page--but you have not explained how to get around the simple fact that no one in the United States can use x264 without leaving themselves liable to patent infringement lawsuits. Like it or not, the fact that software is patentable in the US does matter--you can't just bury your head in the sand!
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Ask fluendo, will you Posted Dec 12, 2007 22:31 UTC (Wed) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link] Ask Fluendo to speed up work on H.264 and buy codec. Hopefully it'll be available sooner then HTML5 :-) Yes, it's not a perfect solution, but how can you be sure it'll not be needed in the future by Theora as well ? As long as software patents exist the only way to get 100% unencumbered solution is to use something 20 years old - and that's not Theora.
Ask fluendo, will you Posted Dec 13, 2007 8:13 UTC (Thu) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link] How can you be sure you have payed all the existing patent owners for the specific x264-related patents? Microsoft has learned it the hard way recently with MP3. So that risk still applies for all others. At least for Theora there are no known patents.
You can not Posted Dec 13, 2007 22:41 UTC (Thu) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link] How can you be sure you have payed all the existing patent owners for the specific x264-related patents? You pay to all known patent owners and hope for the best Microsoft has learned it the hard way recently with MP3. Exactly. So that risk still applies for all others. At least for Theora there are no known patents. And what exactly does it change ? Submarine patents still will be a problem. At least with H.264 you should only fear patent trolls, with Theora "normal" companies like IBM or Microsoft can sue you too...
You can not Posted Dec 15, 2007 2:39 UTC (Sat) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link] Microsoft surely can't. At least not if they participate in the standartization of HTML5.
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