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Red Hat's Fedora 8 hope: An all-purpose Linux foundation (c|net)
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Red Hat's Fedora 8 hope: An all-purpose Linux foundation (c|net)
Posted Nov 9, 2007 9:19 UTC (Fri) by Oddscurity (subscriber, #46851) [Link]
"The reason: Red Hat wants Fedora to be a foundation for those who want to build their own Linux products on a Fedora foundation."
A bit redundant... of course people who want to base a distro on Fedora are going to base it on Fedora. Nevertheless, making spins easier to make is interesting. It looks they're taking a leaf out of rPath's book?
Red Hat's Fedora 8 hope: An all-purpose Linux foundation (c|net)
Posted Nov 9, 2007 17:08 UTC (Fri) by drosser (subscriber, #29597) [Link]
I think they're trying to avoid the kerfluffle that occurred when Red Hat's legal team made the CentOS project remove all the Red Hat trademarks from CentOS. I think at the time, it wasn't a painless process and Red Hat was criticized for being heavy handed.
Red Hat's Fedora 8 hope: An all-purpose Linux foundation (c|net)
Posted Nov 11, 2007 5:11 UTC (Sun) by salimma (subscriber, #34460) [Link]
The segregation of Fedora/RH-specific artwork from the rest of the distribution has been ongoing from the early days of the Fedora project, so there's nothing new there. The new emphasis on creating custom distribution 'spins' is really what it says: tools are provided for making the process of selecting which packages to include, and making a live CD/DVD out of them, as easy as possible. A web front-end is forthcoming for Fedora 9, I believe.
Red Hat's Fedora 8 hope: An all-purpose Linux foundation (c|net)
Posted Nov 12, 2007 13:18 UTC (Mon) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]
Why would you want to choose what packages to include? For a live CD, yes, but with a live DVD isn't there enough space to include everything? If the whole Fedora really is too big nowadays to fit on a single DVD, it would be worth trying to compress the RPM packages a bit better using something like lrzip.
Red Hat's Fedora 8 hope: An all-purpose Linux foundation (c|net)
Posted Nov 12, 2007 13:26 UTC (Mon) by Oddscurity (subscriber, #46851) [Link]
Perhaps it's the packages that are actually installed, as opposed to simply included. Having all packages in the repository available from the menu wouldn't exactly make the menus very useful. That at least makes sense to me, as you say yourself if a Live DVD can't host the better part of the packages, it might be time to investigate newer compression methods. 7zip comes to mind here.
Red Hat's Fedora 8 hope: An all-purpose Linux foundation (c|net)
Posted Nov 12, 2007 14:49 UTC (Mon) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]
Hmm... even then I would say it doesn't hurt to install everything but just don't put it all on the default menu (or move it to an 'Other' section). Multigigabyte disks are commonplace these days.7zip compression (called LZMA) is good; lrzip is Con Kolivas's marriage of LZMA and the reordering 'long range' first pass from Andrew Tridgell's rzip to get something which compresses both better and faster than bzip2 or plain 7-zip (I think). The main disadvantage is that it has to compress the whole file (can't really be used as a stream filter like gzip) and needs a lot of memory for the compression stage. But those don't matter for installing a Linux distro to a hard disk. They could be awkward for live-CD and live-DVD distributions.
Fedora won't fit on a DVD anymore
Posted Nov 13, 2007 20:51 UTC (Tue) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link]
$ du -sh Packages/ 11G Packages/ That's just the i386 packages dir in the Everything directory. The DVD they have is really a small subset of that. $ ls -1 Packages/ | wc -l 8440 From the Packaged dir on the DVD: $ ls -1 Packages/ | wc -l 1983 That's quite a difference, eh?