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This is the wrong approach...

This is the wrong approach...

Posted Nov 4, 2007 20:15 UTC (Sun) by skvidal (subscriber, #3094)
In reply to: This is the wrong approach... by pinky0x51
Parent article: Codec Buddy in Fedora 8

>Beside the problem of pushing non-free software you can read in the >interview that they want
to integrate the "webshop-feature" even more >tightly into Fedora. So Fedora will come with
active advertisement to >purchase non-free software from a commercial company. I don't like
>commercial advertising in my software/operating-system and especially i >don't like
advertising for commercial non-free software.

Fluendo wants to do that. I can assure you that Fedora does not. For a better depiction of the
fedora project board's opinion on codec buddy see this article:


http://www.linux.com/feature/120703

Seth Vidal
Fedora Project Board Member


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Since you're in a position to know

Posted Nov 5, 2007 4:17 UTC (Mon) by freemars (subscriber, #4235) [Link]

Seth Vidal
Fedora Project Board Member

So what does that EULA say? May the end user pay Fluendo their 30 pieces of silver... and use an open source implementation to play MPEG files?

Since you're in a position to know

Posted Nov 5, 2007 4:30 UTC (Mon) by skvidal (subscriber, #3094) [Link]

>So what does that EULA say? May the end user pay Fluendo their 30 pieces of >silver... and
use an open source implementation to play MPEG files? 

the user can use whatever the user wants.

codeina/codec buddy is a pretty simple implementation. If gstreamer hits a codec it can't
handle it'll popup a box for you. The box is just a view to an xml file that points out some
possible codecs which are available which can solve this problem. It could, optionally, point
to a place to install a package from another repo or any other set of things.

Since fluendo worked on the code it points to their site by default.

Fedora doesn't have a place to legally point users to for accessing mp3s other than fluendo.
Their free-as-in-beer mp3 codec allows users to play/access mp3s  on their system. That's it.

Does that answer your question?

Since you're in a position to know

Posted Nov 5, 2007 4:49 UTC (Mon) by freemars (subscriber, #4235) [Link]

Does that answer your question?

It does, thank you.

In that case Codec Buddy could be a plus for those who want their computers
  to be squeaky clean in the eyes of the law
and
  to run free-as-in-Libre software.

This is the wrong approach...

Posted Nov 5, 2007 13:25 UTC (Mon) by DonDiego (subscriber, #24141) [Link]

> Fluendo wants to do that. I can assure you that Fedora does not.

Then why, pray tell, is Fedora becoming Fluendo's minion and helping their business model
based on non-free software?

This is the wrong approach...

Posted Nov 5, 2007 13:44 UTC (Mon) by skvidal (subscriber, #3094) [Link]

>Then why, pray tell, is Fedora becoming Fluendo's minion and helping their >business model
based on non-free software?

The feature of codeina is useful. Being able to prompt people about codecs they need and
explaining to them what the story is with codecs is a good idea. Selling the closed-source
codecs is, in my personal opinion, a bad idea. However, the problem is this - we have a lot of
people who want to use linux who find not having codecs available easily (even for-pay ones) a
real roadblock. So the question becomes: 

Do we keep users off our platform b/c we don't legally have codecs they need or do we tell
them where to get the codecs legally and keep them on the platform, while at the same time
telling them about the problems with software patents and the issues we face dealing with
these codecs.

Fedora opted for the latter, for now.


-sv


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