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The flamewar

The flamewar

Posted Nov 1, 2007 17:27 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
Parent article: The OpenSolaris Developer Preview

(you didn't think I'd talk about the actual OS, did you? I've got to see if it runs on any of
my hardware before I can do that...)

What a pointless flamewar. Half of it is more like an unstructured game of Nomic than a
flamewar, actually, arguing about the methods one should use in order to begin the process of
determining whether or not an OpenSolaris distro should be allowed to be called `OpenSolaris'
and whether it is a Sun or a community project. In the middle of that Brian Gupta spends some
time tossing around conspiracy theories about Ian Murdock's malign intent to destroy
OpenSolaris by, um, releasing a distro called 'OpenSolaris'. Truly earth-stilling stuff.


Joerg's having a whole bundle of fun in there, of course, whipping up the flames: Indiana will
fail because nobody cooperated with *his* distribution; Indiana hackers must prove a totally
insignificant negative (that naming Indiana `OpenSolaris' will not harm other distros in any
way); Indiana will fail because some of Joerg's suggestions are not accepted without demurral;
Schillix is the One True OpenSolaris; Sun didn't help with SchilliX out of pique (Joerg is
apparently not helping with Indiana because they don't agree to use only his build system and
drop all others)...

As usual he's got the occasional reasonable point in there, but it's surrounded with so much
incredibly undiplomatic complaining that only a saint would plough through it to answer those
points.

It's odd how Joerg is trying to simultaneously piss off the Linux developer community by
appearing to be a raging Solaris fanboy incapable of working with anyone else, *and* to piss
off the OpenSolaris developer community by doing exactly the same thing. I'd have thought that
if there were one group he *could* get on with, it would be Sun, but no, the same old debating
tactics (argument by assertion, argument by reiteration, conspiracy theories, et seq) we're so
wearily familiar with get used against Sun as well.

 -- N., finding this a fascinating study of abnormal mass psychology, almost as good as
debian-devel


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The flamewar

Posted Nov 1, 2007 22:09 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Probably he was a Solaris fanboy because he had a fantasy about how it was managed and how
work on the OS was done. 

Since it was closed there was nothing to prove him wrong and it was probably flatering on the
Solaris folks so Sun didn't do anything to prove him wrong.

So he busily went around trying to inflict his fantasies on how a 'real' Unix OS is developed
on the Linux folks. 

Now that a 'real' Unix OS is out there and open for him to hack on he isn't letting his
delusions die and is trying to now inflict his fantasies on the OpenSolaris folks. 

Er.. Something like that.


Still, the idea of releasing 'OpenSolaris Preview' under a closed source license was a
shitasticly bad idea.

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